NBA owner, union talks “engaging,” will continue Saturday

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There is no NBA labor deal yet.

And a source has told PBT there is still a healthy gap between the NBA owners and players on key issues.

But there appears to be a real push and commitment from both sides to try and get a deal done this weekend, and that’s a huge leap forward from a month ago.

NBA owners and players union representatives — including a number of big name players such as LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Durant — met for nearly five hours in midtown New York Friday and will be back at it Saturday morning. Here is a quote from union president Derek Fisher, via Ken Berger of CBSSports.com.

“We did not come out of here with a deal today, but we will be back here at 10 a.m.”

David Stern echoed that, saying “both sides expressed a willingness to make a deal” (again via Berger tweets). He said it was good to have owners and players in the room together to hear each others perspectives. However, he added that once regular season games are lost both sides are likely to harden their positions and it may be harder to reach an agreement.

If a deal is not reached this weekend or by the first part of next week, the start of the NBA season will have to be postponed. There would not be enough time to finalize the deal, have a free agency period, truncated training camps and exhibition games, and still start on Nov. 1.

Fisher told reporters that the talks were wide ranging, at time contentious and “engaging.” No formal proposals have been exchanged and neither side would say that a deal could be reached this weekend. Fisher also said that he’s not sure they are any closer to a deal now than they were when talks ended on Wednesday.

The main issue has been how to both define and split “basketball related income.” The players got 57 percent in the old labor deal and have formally offered to go down to 54 percent, with hints they would go even lower. The owners highest offer was reportedly to give the players 48 percent. Then there are issues of what kind of restrictions — how many exceptions and how steep a luxury tax — there would be on any salary structure for players. The two sides remain fairly far apart on these issues.

Stern did say that the owners seem to have come to some level of agreement on a new revenue sharing plan. It would start with nearly three times the current revenue sharing levels and would go up to four times last year’s $60 million in four years.

The good news takeaway is that the two sides seem to be working hard to make a deal. Multiple reporters and others with knowledge of the talks described “spirit of cooperation” and said both sides seemed serious about making a deal. There were reports that even hardline owners were now looking for a way to find common ground.

Is that going to be enough? Who knows? But there seems to be a real effort going on, and that’s where any deal starts.

Nancy Lieberman says more women need to follow coaching footsteps in NBA

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Whenever we discuss women assistant coaches in the NBA, the topic is usually Becky Hammon getting job interviews or being moved to the front row of seats in San Antonio. Occasionally it’s a discussion of Nancy Lieberman’s job in Sacramento — or the fact she is now a head coach in Ice Cube’s Big3 — or Jenny Boucek in Dallas.

However, when Lieberman discussed women coaches on the CBS Sports Network, she was asking a bigger question:

Who steps up next?

She has discussed the NBA version of the “Rooney Rule” before. Currently, it’s not anywhere near becoming a reality, whatever you think of the idea.

However, there needs to be real opportunities for women to get a foot in the NBA door, and more of them. Including at the entry level. There are qualified women out there, but it can be tough to crack the “old boy’s network” of the NBA coaching carousel — head coach and assistant. It exists in part because head coaches (and GMs) usually hire people they trust and worked with before, and right now those are men. Give women a chance at those entry-level positions and the dynamic starts to change.

Lieberman has been a groundbreaker her entire career. She and others are doing in the NBA again, but she’s right, the big win is changing the dynamic for the next generation. And the one after that.

In no-brainer move, Nets reportedly guarantee Spencer Dinwiddie’s $1.65 million contract

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Spencer Dinwiddie has worked hard at his game — I remember seeing him struggle some at his first Summer League and someone I trust telling me “watch this guy, he’s got the drive, he will make it” — and he is now a solid rotation NBA point guard that Brooklyn coach Kenny Atkinson can trust. He averaged 12.6 points per game last season with an above-average PER of 15.9.

He’s also on a steal of a current contract, so it makes sense the Nets are picking that up (it technically didn’t have to be guaranteed until Halloween). Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN had the report.

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Next summer, Dinwiddie is a free agent. While he’s not going to break the bank, he’s a young, solid backup point guard that a lot of teams could use and he’s going to get a nice pay raise.

Carmelo Anthony on his role with Rockets: “Let’s just let it play out”

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From the moment it became clear Carmelo Anthony was going to join the Rockets — which was a long time before he actually signed the contract on Monday — the questions started:

Would he accept a reduced role with the Rockets? Maybe come off the bench? Be Olympic ‘Melo and blend in with the team?

Coach Mike D’Antoni said he spoke with Anthony and said the player is open to coming off the bench, but he’s not sure what ‘Melo’s role will be. When ambushed by TMZ trying to walk to his car, Anthony said basically the same thing.

“Let’s just let it play out, though. I don’t even know what’s going on. I just signed, let it start first.”

Anthony coming off the bench, being the fulcrum of the offense when James Harden and Chris Paul are on the bench makes some sense (CP3 and Harden are better and more efficient shot creators than Anthony at this point). It’s a chance for Anthony to get his touches and help the other two rest. However, the idea of Anthony starting the first and third quarters and getting heavy touches then but sitting more later is not out of the question.

At the end of close games, D’Antoni is more likely to lean on James Ennis — a long, switchable defender who can shoot threes in the Trevor Ariza mold — than Anthony. It will be just a better fit. Will Anthony roll with that? Will it cause problems in the locker room?

Let’s just let it play out.

The time Andre Drummond taped Spencer Dinwiddie to a chair under cold shower

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Remember when the NBA cracked down on hazing?

It was 2013, and the Miami Dolphins were in the midst of a bullying scandal. The NBA wanted to avoid similar problems.

But enforcement of the NBA’s guidelines was clearly fleeting, a temporary overreaction to the Dolphins’ issues.

By the very next season Andre Drummond and the Pistons were hazing rookie Spencer Dinwiddie.

Kristian Winfield of SB Nation:

Dinwiddie:

Thankfully, Dinwiddie appears to take this in good fun. Context matters, and if the team welcomed him overall, this could be just a harmless prank.

And Dinwiddie has gotten revenge – flourishing with the Nets, including hitting a game-winner at Detroit last season.