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Weekend Observations: 25 notes about the trade deadline


We’re thee days past the trade deadline. Some players have already landed and played a game with their new teams, some haven’t even arrived in their new destinations (does Hasheem Thabeet really have that busy of a calendar?). But we’re starting to recover from the shock of a still-nuts-if-quieter-than-last-year deadline that saw two coaches let go the same week so many players switched laundry.

With that in mind, here are 25 things that came to mind from the decisions made in the past week.

1. So many “nothing to lose deals.” Sam Young to Philly, Leandro Barbosa to Indiana, and in part, Ramon Sessions to L.A..

2. The Cavs’ move of Ramon Sessions in terms of how you view it essentially comes down to whether you believe that the market for Sessions was good enough to get better or not. It’s easy to say that Chris Grant got poor return on what is considered a starter-quality point guard as a reserve (a position of leverage), but the point guard market was simply pretty weak at the deadline. Raymond Felton was a player mentioned repeatedly and that’s only because Portland would have sold off children to get rid of him.

3. What sold me on the trade for Cleveland was the pick swap in 2013. Should the Lakers continue to regress given that they have yet to make a significant move and both Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol will be a year older, there’s a good chance that the Cavs could see their second draft pick in 2013 move up from 28-30 all the way to somewhere between 18 and 20. A ten-spot bump can be the difference between a training camp flameout and a quality rotation player.

4. I do hate them taking on the extra money from Luke Walton’s extra year. It doesn’t hurt because of their cap situation, I just hate the idea of a team that isn’t primed to contend with dead money.

5. What exactly did George Karl do to God? He seems like a good man, a good father, has tried to live his life well and coach his players responsibly. Why has God responded by giving him Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith and JaVale McGee inside of two years?

6. John Wall had to have been skipping when he found out he was getting Nene. “A real live NBA player!”

7. Flip Saunders is somewhere going “Now you get veterans. I get it.”

8. Nick Young’s not a bad pick-up for the Clippers, he just doesn’t solve any of the significant issues they have in front of them. The bleeding won’t stop because of Nick Young.

9. The Warriors were always going to make a move like they did in the Monta Ellis trade. They’ve been in pursuit of a defensive change to their culture for a year now. That’s why Mark Jackson was brought in. New ownership doesn’t want the fun and gun identity the Warriors have had. It’s going to take time and several moves to get a new mindset installed but adding Bogut, however healthy he is, is a good start.

10. For the Bucks, one thing that you have to hope Scott Skiles will do is post Monta Ellis. He’s a surprisingly killer post player and with the offensive putback bigs the Bucks have, a forced miss could be okay if they crash effectively.

11. There’s been a lot of hand-wringing over Ellis playing next to Brandon Jennings. But considering there rampant talks of moving Jennings, it doesn’t seem like the Bucks are sold on him long-term. The real challenge is Skiles getting Ellis to commit defensively.

12. The Lakers have never been big on sentimentality. So moving Derek Fisher shouldn’t stand as a monster shock for them. Ownership has long put the emphasis on the greatness of the team and its legacy rather than any individual player.

13. In unrelated news, Kobe Bryant is making $30 million in two years when the new CBA’s most punitive tax measures kick in and the team still hasn’t used its amnesty clause.

14. Mitch Kupchak was criticized for not amnestying Luke Walton and for the Jason Kapono contract. Then he managed to move both players and a pick they inevitably will not need for a significant upgrade. It’s like teams just line up to take the Lakers’ roster flotsam and jetsam.

15. Jordan Hill’s a better pick-up than considered, also. He’s not going to dominate at any time on the floor, but he’s a quality rebounder with some athleticism, the area they were really missing the most.

16. This is the team that has made D.J. MBenga and Josh Powell look capable, after all.

17. How did the Blazers not move Raymond Felton or Jamal Crawford? How do you have the two most unhappiest, most disruptive, arguably best value trade assets and not move either one? Or are those things related? Taking dirt-for-dollars on Felton likely would have been the best move for both sides.

18. But getting the Nets’ pick was genius. They sent them a player which can only help to make them slightly better but not significantly better, meaning they have a great chance at even the 4th pick, especially if one team leaps them in the lottery. That could work out disastrously for the Nets, who need to tank, violently.

19. New Jersey: “Well, we didn’t get Dwight yet, which means that our massive gamble of our long-term future failed and we’re facing losing Deron Williams after giving up all that for him in the trade to get him. I know! Let’s double down, mortgage more of our future, and do it for a player who if he opts in, costs us cap space and if he doesn’t means we have an even worse team to try and lure Deron back. Great!”

20. Gregg Popovich would have had to think about acquiring Stephen Jackson for about 35 seconds. Jackson doesn’t have to shoot well, doesn’t have to score a lot, just has to defend and wait for open shots. He can’t disrupt the locker room and he won’t fight with Popovich because of the respect he has. It works for both sides.

21. Detroit reportedly tried to move Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva. Should have tried harder. They’re among a handful of teams that should have done a deal at the deadline.

22. There were discussions to move D.J. Augustin to OKC according to a report from Oklahoma TV. That would have been the ultimate Thunder one-up of the Lakers on their grab of Sessions.

23. Richard Jefferson was in uniform and played Saturday night. Same for Barbosa. It doesn’t matter how they played. It’s the matter of professionalism. A lot of other, younger players still haven’t shown up for their teams yet.

24. There was a brief moment in time when the Blazers had on roster Hasheem Thabeet and Greg Oden. Let that sink in.

25. When Dwight Howard say he was just happy that “it’s over,” I wanted to know just what exactly he thought was over. Because in two months when the Magic are eliminated in the second round, the whole thing starts over again. Yay.

The Warriors aren’t exactly ‘all-in’ with Stephen Curry, would have traded him for Bogut if necessary

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The Warriors really wanted Andrew Bogut. You can argue about whether they should have wanted the 27-year-old injured center who has said his elbow will never recover fully from the horrific fall it suffered and who is currently out with an ankle fracture. But for the Warriors, the trade this past week of Monta Ellis and pieces for Bogut and Stephen Jackson (subsequently spun into Richard Jefferson and a protected pick was about a culture change. Bogut represents an identity shift for the Warriors. On the day Mark Jackson was introduced as head coach during the NBA Finals, he talked about the need to acquire a defensive big man. It got lost in the shuffle of the Finals, but Jackson made it clear that the Warriors on staff weren’t going to get it done. Bogut fits that role perfectly.

The Warriors felt they simply had to get him. And it wasn’t just Monta Ellis who they would have moved to get him. They wouldn’t have moved both, but the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Warriors’ Joe Lacob told the press something interesting about who else could have been sent if not Ellis in the trade:

“I’m getting chills talking about (Ellis) right now,” Lacob said. “He’s one of my favorite players in the NBA. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. I feel very strongly about him. It was incredibly difficult to trade him, but he’s the piece it had to be to get Andrew Bogut. We would have traded either (Curry or Ellis) to take the next step for this franchise.”

via GS Warriors owner Joe Lacob talks Steph Curry injuries and trade possibilities | Golden State Warriors | an SFGate.com blog.

The Warriors thought they had the franchise in 2009 when they drafted him. He was a rookie of the year candidate. But injuries have been a recurring issue and Curry doesn’t dominate offensively, or at least hasn’t with the current structure of the Warriors. Good, maybe even great, not dominate. Lacob’s comments are a pretty clear indication that the Warriors are not sold long-term right now on Curry’s position in terms of being a franchise player.

Maybe he and Bogut can thrive together if they both get healthy. It’s way too early to give up on Curry, and the kid flat-out shoots the light out. He’s about a million miles away from a bust. But Warriors ownership has already admitted being prepared to move him once. Whether that means they’ll have to consider it again depends on his health, his play, and how the Bogut gamble works out.

The Warriors are considering shutting down Curry for the season.

(HT: HoopsHype)

Dwight Howard just wants to win. Which is why he’s refusing Chicago, still. Obviously. Because that makes sense.

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Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reports that the Magic finally have a team they’re willing to trade with, who wants Dwight Howard. One problem, he doesn’t. Howard has long said that all that matters to him is winning. That that’s what’s important. Which is made clearly by the fact he doesn’t want to go to… Chicago?

From CBSSports.com:

The Orlando Magic would like to seriously engage the Bulls in trade talks for Dwight Howard, but the All-Star center’s apparent reluctance to make a long-term commitment to Chicago has all but killed the discussions, league sources told CBSSports.com.

The feeling among rival executives remains that the Magic seem intent on rolling the dice and keeping Howard for the rest of the season, hoping a long playoff run, emotional ties to Orlando and an extra year and $29 million they could offer would persuade him to stay beyond this season. But the move would be highly risky, given that Howard has refused to publicly commit to the Magic — a stance that sources view as a strong sign that hed leave as a free agent if he isn’t traded.

“He’s telling everyone he’s leaving,” one league source said Sunday.

via Ken Berger – CBSSports.com Keep Dwight? Not if the Magic could trade him to Chicago.

So Howard never gets to play the “I just want to win” card ever again, right? It’s fine if his move is just financially motivated or he just really wants to live in New York. It’s fine if he thinks Mikhail Prokhorov can put him on more billboards or make him big in Uzbekistan or something. But if you want to win titles, multiple titles? You go to Chicago with Tom Thibodeau’s defense and the MVP Derrick Rose. It would be the best 1-2 combo in the league. It makes them better than the Heat. It may be the only thing that can make Chicago better than the Heat.

But, no.

Instead, it’s Deron Williams, who is a superb player, a top-five point guard in this league when motivated, and then… probably nothing after the trade. Avery Johnson, a good coach sometimes, a bad coach sometimes, an allright coach most of the time. Maybe Anthony Morrow, maybe MarShon Brooks, not both, probably Kris Humphries. Yeah, that sounds much better than the best team in the East.

For the Bulls, giving up Deng is the problem, really. Everything else is largely expendable. Take Carlos Boozer, please, the Bulls say. But losing Deng is losing an All-Star wing player, and that can’t happen without assurance from Howard he’ll stay. So instead the situation remains the same, and we’re left to wonder why a player talks so much about winning and then says no to his best short-term and l0ng-term chance to win.