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Argentinian guard Emanuel Ginobili (R) c

Great Argentina team loses final match against Team USA by 26 points, U.S. to play for gold Sunday


Let’s take a moment and applaud this Argentina team. Lead by Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Andres Nocioni (no, really), this Argentina has battled for one another for a decade. They have been the biggest thorn in the side of the U.S. in international play, and were what prompted widespread changes in the U.S. approach to world championship play. They fought as hard as they could on Friday, hanging around with the U.S. for two and a half quarters. They played with heart, they played with intensity, and they played with the identity of their leader, Manu Ginobili. Smart, gritty, and beautiful.

Then they lost by 26 points, 109-83, because Team USA is much better.

There has been talk from some on this Argentina team that the U.S. wasn’t really all that invincible, that they were in this, and that maybe this team wasn’t that good. One player said after their last meeting that the U.S. had only won because the officials hadn’t called traveling correctly.

The spread for Friday’s game was 25.5 points. The U.S. cleared it, but it was a battle to the wire. To cover the 25.5. spread.

It was more of the same of what we’d seen from this Team USA. When they needed an answer, LeBron James would provide it, be it a nifty pass to an open shooter, or a tough finish at the rim. From there, it was only a matter of time before the three-point shots began to fall, and when the cold spell ended, Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant and Carmelo Anthony took care of the rest. It was a barrage, and it blew open a close game.

Argentina hung in there because of some tough, and I mean tough, shots from Carlos Delfino, who simply could not miss for a stretch, no matter how contested the threes were. American ball is supposed to be the isolation-contested-jumper offense, but Argentina used that same model to stay in the game. Ginobili of course was the other huge factor, hitting floaters and slicing through all defenders. When the defense collapsed, he found Scola. But it wasn’t enough. The talent just wasn’t there, and Team USA’s pressure defense rattled Argentina just enough to facilitate the collapse.

So Team USA will face the team everyone expected them to face in the gold medal match Sunday, Spain, who toppled Russia earlier. They’ll face the biggest interior team yet with the Gasol brothers down low, and Juan Carlos Navarro to hit from the perimeter. But even with the holes on this particular roster due to injury, you have to expect the U.S. to win. They’ve been dispatching great teams throughout this tournament, and every time it looks like they might be challenged, they turn on the jets and leave their opponents faces scorched from the engines.

Argentina faces Russia in what will be the last Olympics match for this core. There are concerns about the future of the program for Argentina. But they’ll go down swinging, no matter what the final margin is.

Kevin Durant lead all scorers with 19 in the win.

Ginobili says Argentina has “5-10 percent chance” of beating USA

Olympics Day 12 - Basketball

It’s going to take an almost perfect game from Argentina — and a little help from Team USA — for the Argentines to pull the upset Friday and advance to the gold medal game.

And they know it.

Look at what Argentina’s Manu Ginobili said, via Reuters.

“The odds are against us. We have a 10 percent or even a five percent chance of winning but we are going to fight for this,” San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili said after driving his team past Brazil and into the semi-finals.


Argentina did push the United States in a tune up game for the Olympics (86-80) and they play a grinding style. They have some skill with Ginobili, Luis Scola, Carlos Delfino and others. With this being the third meeting between the teams in three weeks, Argentina knows what it has to do.

“We are going to try and turn the ball over less. Make a few shots in the second half and don’t let them run. Then if they get inspired and LeBron (James) or Kobe Bryant or someone get hot and hit 20 threes like they did in the last game, then there’s nothing you can do.”

Argentina needs to play its best game. It needs Team USA to help out by being cold from beyond the arc. And the chances of that are pretty slim.

Probably between five and 10 percent.

Argentina may be tougher test for USA than gold medal game

US guard Kobe Bryant (R) stands by Argen

Argentina is not more talented on paper than the Spanish men’s national team in these Olympics. We can have a debate about Argentina vs. Russia but it’s close.

But the Argentineans could pose a bigger threat to the United States’ gold medal hopes in the semi-finals on Friday than either Spain or Russia in a potential Gold Medal matchup Sunday.

Why? Style and familiarity.

Familiarity as in this will be the third time the two teams will meet inside of three weeks (once in a tune-up game, once in group play in London). It’s hard to beat a good team three times that close together — they know your actions, your preferences and your weaknesses. They have an understanding of what they have to do — and this is a veteran Argentinian side with Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola and Carlos Delfino. They play a high-IQ, savvy game. They run multiple picks on each offensive play — they run a pick-and-roll at the top of the key where the pick setter doesn’t roll or pop but runs to set another pick for a wing player, trying to force switches into mismatches or just confusion. They have seen what works. The familiarity helps them.

Style wise, Argentina knows what to do to try and take the United States out of its up-tempo, free-flowing game. This is going to be a grinding, physical — let’s call it chippy — contest. Argentina likes to get under your skin. The USA can’t let them.

The USA has won the first two meetings because they made big runs for a quarter the Argentines could not match. The Americans are more athletic and deeper, they can do this at any time. In the first game the USA push came at the start, they owned the first quarter, but then the rest of the game Argentina chipped away at the lead, they ground the game down, they took away the transition points and easy baskets for the USA. It ended up being a six-point USA win.

On offense Argentina runs a flex-like system (think Jerry Sloan Utah Jazz) that can expose and lead to easy buckets against a USA side together for less than six weeks and still not covering each other on defense all that well. They run multiple picks with lots of action off the ball, all looking to create confusion or a mismatch. And they have veterans like Ginobili who do not make many mistakes under pressure defenses.

Think of it this way — Argentina plays the kind game that Australia and Lithuania do, but they have more talent and play it better than either of those sides.

The Americans are and should still be the favorites — it will take a perfect game from the Argentines to beat the USA… and they would still need some help. The USA had Kevin Durant raining threes on Argentina before, if he and Team USA go cold from beyond the arc in this one it could be trouble. If the shots are falling from deep the USA is virtually unbeatable.

In the two previous meetings Argentina played most of the game well but the USA’s athleticism (and in second game depth) got them big runs of points the Argentines could not recover from. That probably happens here. Probably.

But this is the last Olympics for Argentina’s golden generation, and they will not go quietly into that good night.

This could be a real test for the USA. Maybe their biggest test.