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Everyone denies report Phil Jackson talking to Orlando front office


UPDATE 10:59 pm: Everyone who should be involved in these conversations about Phil Jackson to Orlando says they have no idea what we are all talking about. From the AP:

However, Jackson’s longtime agents, Todd and Brian Musburger, said Wednesday that the Magic has never contacted them about Jackson. And a league source familiar with the Magic’s search for a new general manager said that Vincent was not speaking for the Magic, nor are the Magic interested in hiring Jackson.

“One, Phil never voiced any interest in Orlando,” Todd Musburger said “never had us check it out, never checked it out himself. Two, Orlando never called.”

Here’s how this works. Sam Vincent (the former Bulls player under Jackson who would be the Magic GM in this scenario) is trying to work this out and he and his people are doing it all through back channels. There have been no formal conversations yet — call it plausible deniability. It’s how deals often get done. By the time the Magic and Jackson would actually formally start talking a foundation would be in place.

But these kinds of talks — from trades to coach movement — go on all the time, and 99 percent of the time nothing comes of it. This time it seems very unlikely anything actually happens. But it doesn’t mean there are not people pushing for it. And it helps them to get the public talking about it.

8:59 am: I’ve said here before that I expect Phil Jackson to find a role in the NBA again, just not as a coach. I think he’s done with that grind, but the guy loves competition and power. He’s not just riding off into a Montana sunset.

With that background, we bring you the report that the Phil Jackson to the Magic front office talk is not dead as was first reported last week. It has been revived, reports Sam Amick at Sports Illustrated.

According to the sources, the latest version of the proposal has Pacers assistant and ex-Lakers assistant Brian Shaw coaching the team and Hall of Famer and Bulls ambassador Scottie Pippen as the lead assistant. And as if Jackson’s potential price tag wasn’t daunting enough (he earned $12 million in his last year with the Lakers), one of the sources said he is asking for a slice of minority ownership in the franchise as well. The hope, of course, would be for Jackson to use his cachet to convince Dwight Howard to remain in Orlando for the long-term. Jackson’s agent, Todd Musburger, did not return a call for comment.

The idea is being pushed by former Bobcats coach (and Bulls player under Jackson) Sam Vincent, who would have a hands-on, day-to-day role in the front office. (It’s in their interest to have this public, also, to see if it fires up the Orlando fan base, thereby moving the needle with management.) Jackson would work remotely much of the time, either from his Montana ranch or Jeannie Buss’ home in Los Angeles where he still spends time.

Would just the mere name of Jackson really convince Howard to stay? I’m not convinced, it sounds to me like he just wants out, something this report confirms. Amick suggests the Magic aren’t convinced either

Yet fascinating as the idea might be, Magic CEO Alex Martins appears to be against the idea of having an absentee leader — no matter how many rings he has. In the plan, Jackson — according to one of the sources — would work in Orlando one week out of every month and agree to make six community appearances every month as well.

It sounds like a long shot still. But if the Magic are really looking to do something different and bring in a name guy who certainly has some clout, this would be a move to consider. Just don’t expect it to happen.

Winderman: Problem with Riley in Miami, Jackson in Orlando is they’re not coaching

Miami Heat Introduce LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade

We have reached a compelling intersection of what is and what could be. The fact that the protagonists are Pat Riley and Phil Jackson makes it all the more intriguing of a case study.

At the very moment when the Riley-as-front-office-sage approach is coming under fire 200 miles south on Florida’s Turnpike, there is increased clamor in Orlando about Phil Jackson possibly arriving to provide direction.

The lesson of the moment is the limitations of coaching greatness relocating to the out-of-view reaches of the front office.

Because at this very moment, perhaps even more than in 2006 when he stepped in as coach to lead the Heat to the franchise’s only championship, it can be argued that Riley has never been needed more on the Heat sideline.

At this point. For this upcoming game. To find a way to keep Doc Rivers from making coaching the central issue for why the Celtics advance and the Heat collapse.

Because for everything Erik Spoelstra has been in this Big Three remix, a championship-moment coach has not been one of them.

He simply lacks the rings. The rings Riley used to seduce LeBron James. The rings Jackson can use to leverage Rich DeVos into the type of riches that Jerry Buss simply would not consider.

Perhaps Jackson’s Zen ways will resonate from the Magic front office in a way that Riley’s driven disposition has not over this past week (have the Heat ever looked less like a Riley team?). Perhaps this is more than a money grab by Phil or an act of desperation from the desperate Magic.

But a great coach who is not coaching only serves to remind of what could have been, and what isn’t.

This is not to say Spoelstra is impotent. Riley, in fact, has kept his distance so as not to create appearances of usurping his coach’s influence.

But the more Riley has moved to the shadows, the less assured the approach on the sideline.

What Riley has been from the front office is a master recruiter, be it luring James or Chris Bosh, or getting supporting players to take less as free agents.

Phil Jackson would provide similar cachet. Perhaps Orlando no longer would come off as such a distant outpost to free agents.

But when considering the impact of all-time great coaches as front-office game-changers, consider one essential element:

They aren’t doing what they do best. They aren’t coaching.

Ira Winderman writes regularly for NBCSports.com and covers the Heat and the NBA for the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. You can follow him on Twitter at @IraHeatBeat.

Phil Jackson returning to NBA? Maybe, but not with Orlando.

Los Angeles Lakers head coach Phil Jackson answers questions at a post-game news conference following Game 4 of their NBA Western Conference semi-final basketball playoff against the Dallas Mavericks in Dallas

People expect to see Phil Jackson returning to the bench, sitting in his extra-tall chair, coaching some team loaded with talent that just needs someone to get them to meditate and come together to reach their higher plain.

But he has suggested he really wants a front office position, more wise guru consultant than guy who has to go through the grind of being an NBA coach.

Apparently he is again going to have some kind of role with an NBA team, it just won’t be with the Orlando Magic. Jackson recently spoke with the Magic about a spot in the front office, former Magic player Sam Vincent told the Orlando Sentinel.

For the past few days, Phil Jackson was interested in the possibility of joining the Magic’s front office.

Then, late Thursday afternoon, Jackson bowed out. Magic CEO Alex Martins was formally presented on Wednesday with a scenario involving Jackson by Sam Vincent, who played for the Magic and Jackson.

“It drew some interest from Phil,” Vincent said. “But in the end, Phil decided to go with another opportunity.”

What other opportunity?

We’ll see. Sometimes that’s just what you say when things don’t work out.

But I think we may see him with an NBA role. I just am pretty sure whatever it is it will not be as head coach.