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Kendrick Perkins returns to Boston for first time Monday


It’s going to be weird.

With all due respect to Jeff Green, nobody in the Boston locker room wanted the Kendrick Perkins trade to go down. Perk was part of the family, part of the foundation, part of the reason there is banner 17 at the Boston Garden. Celtics fans didn’t like it much either, or the results since the trade. We can rationalize why it happened — maybe why it needed to happen as a basketball business move — but nobody really liked it.

Perkins landed on his feet. He’s now playing on the Oklahoma City Thunder, a serious title contender and the favorite to come out of the West. Perkins was a piece the young Thunder needed — someone to protect the rim, some size and grit inside to match up with the long front lines of the Lakers and Grizzlies. He was maybe the last piece to their puzzle.

But it’s going to be weird. Which is what players said in the video above and told A. Sherrod Blakely of CSNNE.com.

“I don’t give a crap what uniform he has on,” Doc Rivers said. “He’s a Celtic for life, and he knows that.”

“We still talk daily,” Rajon Rondo said. “We’re still best friends.”

“Perk’s like my little brother,” Kevin Garnett said. “We speak quite frequently. I know when he first went out there, we spoke if not everyday, every other day. I know him and Rondo speak damn near on the hour.”

It’s not just going to be weird for the Celtics players and fans.

“It’ll be weird for me,” Perkins told CSNNE.com when asked about his first return to the Garden on Monday night. “Because you know, all I know — all I knew — was being a Celtic. But hey man, it’s a business….”

Said Perkins: “You know I’m always going to have love for Boston and the fans. I had some good times, some bad times, too. But they showed me a lot of love, lot of love.”

Shaq says he told Celtics not to trade Perkins (and talks Kobe)

Former US basketball star Shaquille O'Ne

Shaquille O’Neal feels like a lot of Celtics fans do — that the Celtics shouldn’t have traded Kendrick Perkins to Oklahoma City at the deadline last season. But Shaq went a step farther telling GM Danny Ainge he might not be back and not to make the trade.

That’s just one of the interesting things the future Hall of Famer told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. Shaq was back in his old stomping grounds of Baton Rouge as LSU unveiled a new statue of the best big man ever to come out of that school.

Here is what he said of the Celtics.

My mind was on winning the whole thing, and we had a chance to get the second spot (in the Eastern Conference), and we ended up getting the fourth spot. I even told (Boston General Manager) Danny Ainge not to do the Kendrick Perkins deal with Oklahoma City. I told them I might not be ready, and I’m definitely not coming back. Those guys did what they’ve got to do. I wasn’t surprised; I’ve seen it before. They say all that blah, blah, but you know it’s always going to be something different.

Shaq on comparing Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade and LeBron James.

They were all different. Coming in, I had to bring Kobe along. Coming in with D-Wade, I didn’t want to lose a friend like I lost Kobe, so I was real delicate with him. LeBron already had everything, so I never had to say anything to him.

Shaq on how the league has changed since he entered it.

Business-wise, it’s different. When I was in high school, every team had a star and a Hall of Famer. You don’t have that now. Let’s be real: Orlando, Boston, L.A., Miami — that’s it. Maybe Memphis, the Spurs, maybe Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns and the New York Knicks. Only nine or 10 teams have a star. In my opinion, it’s kind of gone down. You’ve still got some young guys that are very exciting. They understand and grasp the power that they have.

Jeff Green admits it was “tough” joining Celtics last season

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Jeff Green came into an almost impossible situation with the Celtics last season — this was a team on a title quest and he was traded for a starter loved by fans and teammates in Kendrick Perkins. He walked in the door with everybody already looking at him askew.

Then he struggled to find his place. He looked like a square peg trying to fit in the Celtics round hole. However, with Marquis Daniels out he was pushed into playing time — sometimes in key moments — and like he did in Oklahoma City Green impressed only in flashes.

He admitted to Marc Spears of Yahoo the transition was hard.

“They’ve been together for a number of years,” Green said of the Celtics. “They’ve already won a championship, they’ve already have a system, they already have their chemistry and that bond on that team.

“It was tough to go into that situation.”

No doubt, psychologically it was tough. Although he did leave a contender where he was a third option to go to a place where he just had to find a spot as a role player with the pressure off him. But that’s still an adjustment.

Here’s the thing — the Jeff Green that played with the Celtics had an almost identical production to the one that played for the Thunder. Exact same guy. His minutes decreased and he came off the bench in Boston, so fewer points per game. But his efficiency didn’t change, nor did his production.

Green’s PER was identical from OKC to Boston last season at 12.9 (and it has never reached the league average of 15). Green shot at a higher percentage in Boston (48.5 percent to 43.7 percent) and his points scored per 36 minutes played was the same before and after the trade.

Bottom line Boston — the Green you saw is the Green you get. Maybe an off-season of working out with the Celtics and a full training camp would have helped his comfort level, but that is out the window now. And like we said, he had that with the Thunder and had the same production.

He wants to come back to Boston, but with the new Collective Bargaining Agreement it is all going to be about money. And Green may not get as much as he envisions.

Doc Rivers would have waited on Kendrick Perkins trade

Doc Rivers

Danny Ainge is out there selling it — he still stands behind the Kendrick Perkins trade. He has no choice, that was his baby.

Doc Rivers, he would have waiting a while.

That’s what Rivers told the Boston Globe.

“Well, I would wait until after the year is over. I’ll put it that way. I do think Jeff Green has a chance to be a starter for us in the future and a hell of a basketball player. And Krstic can help. But making that trade at the time we made that trade, that made it very tough for us. And not only that, we added other pieces as well that we tried to fit in.

“It was just a lot of moving parts to a team that the advantage that we had was that we had continuity, everybody else was new. Chicago was new and the Heat were new. They couldn’t fall back on what we could fall back on with our starting five. Once we made that trade, we took that advantage away.”

Rivers explained what he meant by continuity.

“…But it was more that you have new guys playing different positions and you had a guy who could literally reach back into a playbook and throw out something that was three or four years old and they all knew it, when Perk was there. When you lose Perk, you take that one guy out of that starting lineup, now there’s the fifth guy who doesn’t know your offense three years ago; he only knows what he knows since he’s been there. And that limited our group. With Rondo, because the way teams guard him, you need a massive playbook. That took more away from it than we thought.”

I’ll agree with Ainge in that I’m not convinced keeping Perkins puts Boston past Miami, because the problems Miami created Perkins did not solve.

But the trade did hurt this team, make no mistake. And to make that kind of move when your team is in contention for a title, to weaken it, was a big mistake.

Ainge: Perkins trade not the reason team lost

Danny Ainge

The moment the trade of Kendrick Perkins went through, you knew this is how it would go down — when the Celtics fell out of the playoffs the trade was going to be blamed. Danny Ainge was going to get blamed.

Throw in an early second round exit and you have Ainge getting a lot of heat.

But he still defends the trade.

Ainge went on CSN New England and said the trade of Perkins to Oklahoma City for Jeff Green (other players were involved as well). (Watch the video at the bottom of this post)

“I don’t think that the presence of one player standing in the middle of the paint was going to [help] our offense score more, wasn’t going to prevent LeBron James from shooting step-back 3-point jump shots with Paul Pierce and Jeff Green draped all over him,” Ainge told Comcast SportsNet’s Greg Dickerson in a one-on-one interview.

“I mean, we scored zero points with four or five minutes to go in two games. That was not because of who we had playing center. That had a lot more to do with our best players not being able to score.”

And please don’t tell him the Celtics lost their toughness when they lost Perkins.

“Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. We lose our toughness because we trade one player?” he said. “What do you think Kevin Garnett feels about that? What do you think Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo [feel about that]? Like, we only have one guy that’s a tough player, that brings an element of toughness?”

Ainge is right. Kind of. Having Perkins in house would not have given the Celtics the offense in the paint they lacked against the Heat. Perkins alone could not have swung that series.

But an implied part of the Perkins trade was putting all their eggs in the Shaquille O’Neal basket. And that proved to be the real issue. The Shaq from November might have made a difference in this series, but the fact he never came close and there was no good backup plan can be put on Ainge. Unless you consider Jermaine O’Neal a good backup plan. Sure, nobody expected Shaq to be out that long. But Shaq was supposed to be the Plan B when he was signed and when he became Plan A there came with that big risks.

And remember you may get Shaq back — Shaq has a player option for next season. He can pick it up and return and there is nothing you can do about it. That is on Ainge, too.

Ainge admits the trade didn’t work out. But he is right the trade was not the reason the Celtics lost to the Heat, at least not that alone.