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David Stern

Powerpoint version of league’s offer players will soon reject


This Powerpoint presentation above is the latest in the NBA’s PR blitz that included the odd, stiff answers of Adam Silver on twitter, releasing their full proposal to the USA Today and David Stern talking to media outlets. The league is getting its message out there and letting everyone know exactly what their offer is.

And by everyone we mean the rank and file players. That is who this really is aimed at, the league is hoping enough players see this and think it’s fair that they will pressure the union leadership to put the offer to a vote. A vote it very well might pass.

That’s not what is going to happen. The union is expected to make the smart negotiating play — modify the parts of the offer they don’t like, vote to approve the altered offer and throw it back in the owner’s court.

The players have done better of late winning the public relations battle of the lockout. It’s a hollow victory. It’s reached the point with most fans where it feels there is no right side, no winners, just a lot of losers willing to hurt the game for their pocketbooks.

Report: NBA union reps meeting set for Monday morning

Etan Thomas, Billy Hunter, Chris Paul, Maurice Evans, Roger Mason Jr., James Jones

Well, at least we won’t have to wait long for Armageddon.

The NBA players’ union team representatives are set to meet in New York at 9 a.m. Monday morning, according to a tweet from Jerry Zgoda of the Star-Tribune (talking about Wolves rep Anthony Tolliver).

Derek Fisher, Billy Hunter and union leadership will present David Stern and the owners latest ultimatum, er, offer to the players’ representatives — and don’t expect a positive spin. Right now the entire tide of the union seems to be turning on the offer, and while some guys just want to get back to playing (if it went to a secret ballot I think it would pass but many agents think it would not) the key decision makers and union reps seem opposed.

And then… either more talks, or the owners reset offer with a side of union decertification. Pray for more talks, because the reset and decertification is the path to Armageddon.

Tide of players turning against Stern’s latest ultimatum

Derek Fisher, Billy Hunter

It will not be until the first part of next week that we see officially how the players will respond to the latest ultimatum from David Stern and the owners.

But Thursday night union president Derek Fisher seemed hesitant about it, and as Friday wore on more and more players and owners seemed to turn against the deal the more they learned about it. It showed up in twitter, in conversations with sources, just about everywhere.

Check out this quote from an agent that spoke to Ken Berger of CBSSports.com (and know that this is the prevailing sentiment out there):

“They’ve lost me,” said one of the previously moderate agents. “Three months ago, we thought this would be done. We thought people would be reasonable.”

Players seemed to be echoing those thoughts. Like what the Pacers Danny Granger told Mike Wells if the Indianapolis Star.

‘From what I’ve seen and heard, the counter offer is the same they presented us a week ago, making a few minor changes that in the big scheme of things that really did nothing to the deal. I would expect that proposal to be rejected after all the players learn more about the deal. The next step I don’t know.'”

Check out the tweets below from Jared Dudley and T.J. Ford that seemed to speak for a lot of players.


My guess is the players will try to do what they did last time Stern made an ultimatum — ignore the threat and try to negotiate off this latest offer.

The bigger question is what Stern and the owners do? If they really do revert to his reset offer and the players start the decertification process, well, how do you feel about talking lockout on Christmas Day?