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Report: Nets leave ‘Melo meeting “not confident,” but Knicks have own issues


The Carmelo Anthony trade saga is nearing its end — finally — but like a soap opera’s final episodes the drama just seems to ramp up for the event. Here is where we stand Sunday morning.

Anthony and Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov broke break and had a shot of, um, water at a Los Angeles area restaurant early Saturday night.

The result should not thrill Nets fans, tweeted Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo:

After Carmelo Anthony sit-down with New Jersey ownership, “The Nets didn’t come away very confident,” a source briefed on meeting tells Y!

That would seem to put the Knicks in a position of strength….

But they are doing their best to shoot themselves in the foot — including maybe driving team president Donnie Walsh away — according to Ken Berger at CBSSports.

The Knicks’ willingness to part with three starting players — Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari and Raymond Felton — plus Eddy Curry’s expiring contract and a first-round pick from another team, marked a significant departure from the patient strategy employed by team president Donnie Walsh. And sources told CBSSports.com Saturday that the involvement of (Knicks owner James) Dolan, leaning on the advice of former team president Isiah Thomas, could call into question Walsh’s willingness to remain with the team beyond this season.

Wojnarowski backs up the idea that Thomas and Dolan are the ones pushing this trade in this form.

This is Dolan’s show now — he met with Anthony, he and Thomas are calling the shots. This trade, if it goes forward as constructed, is vintage Thomas-era Knicks. If Anthony will not sign with the Nets, the Knicks are bidding against themselves, so there is no reason to part with three starters. What is more, this deal combined with Amar’e Stoudemire’s and a likely much lower salary cap in a new CBA, will make it very difficult or even impossible to sign a third star like Chris Paul or Deron Williams to go with these two. Melo and Amar’e will be your guys. And you’ll need good role players — like the ones you are trading away — to go around them to make this work at all. This move hamstrings the team for years to come against the cap. It is vintage Thomas.

If Anthony is not going to go to the Nets, the Knick can afford to be patient and lowball the Nuggets, forcing them to take less for fear of getting nothing. Walsh was letting the situation come to him. Dolan and Thomas showed the patience and nuance of a five-year-old. Or a sports talk radio caller.

Berger adds that the Nuggets do have their “nuclear option.” They could tell Anthony they will not trade him to the Knicks under any circumstances, he has to agree to a sign and trade with the Nets or stay with the Nuggets. It’s risky for Denver — he could stay, opt out of his deal, become a free agent and sign with the Knicks next summer as a free agent (the scenario that frankly would be best for the Knicks). The Nuggets risk becoming the Cavaliers. But for Anthony to do so would be to give up tens of millions of dollars — we don’t know what a max contract will look like in a new CBA, but you can bet it will be lower than the current one. Less than the three years, $65 million extension on the table.

Does Anthony want to go to the Knicks bad enough to risk giving up tens of millions in guaranteed money? Will Dolan make sure the trade happens now for the Knicks? Will Anthony wake up Sunday morning and think the Nets don’t look so bad?

All of this and more are coming in the final episodes of the ‘Melodrama.

Reports: Anthony says he’ll only sign with Knicks; Also to meet with Nets

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UPDATE #2 7:40 pm: Carmelo Anthony is going to meet with the New Jersey Nets tonight — despite what both Prokhorov and Anthony said just hours before — according to Frank Isola of of the New York Daily News.

As I said in the main post, take everything with a grain of salt. Actually,  whole shaker. That’s not to say this is or is not true, it would seem fitting for ‘Melo at this point to say he will only sign with the Knicks then turn around and meet with the Nets anyway. From the public perspective, he has got more waffle batter going right now than Roscoe’s here in Los Angeles.

But if Prokhorov really does get him in a room, we’ll see just how good he is at selling the Nets and their future.

UPDATE 7:05 pm: Carmelo Anthony is telling everyone around him he will only sign a extension with the New York Knicks, according to Jonathon Abrahms at the New York Times.

That would explain why Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov was saying he did not plan on having a meeting with Anthony — it’s a way to save face for him when he could not get a meeting and a chance to sell his Nets. Pretty much the same tactic he used pulling the Nets out of the negotiations the first time.

This is now the Knicks deal. The only thing that would kill it is the Nuggets deciding not to give Anthony what he has wanted all along just out of spite. Not impossible, but not likely. This seems more and more like just a matter of time.

5:01 pm: Knicks fans may get what they want, what owner James Dolan has pushed hard for — Carmelo Anthony.

The latest reports seem to put the Knicks in the drivers seat for the ‘Melo sweepstakes.

First a quick word of advice: Take every part of this report with liberal helpings of salt. Because at this point — as the Melodrama reaches its climax — everybody is spinning. If not outright lying. Everything changes seemingly by the hour. The truth is more confused here than on the X-Files. And I’m not even sure it’s out there anymore.

Mikhail Prokhorov released a statement Saturday saying he has not met with Carmelo Anthony and has no plans to. At the Saturday media session, Anthony confirmed there were no plans, but according to a tweet from Chris Tomasson of FanHouse ‘Melo said he would have.

“I would have broke ground with him. I would have drunk some water with him. Took a shot of water with him.’’

We need to note that Prokhorov also said before the Nets were totally out of the Anthony negotiations, and now they are back in. Salt, we’re just saying take with salt.

If there is no meeting, the Knicks are in the drivers seat. New Jersey doesn’t want him without a signed extension and he’s not going to sign one without sitting down with the real power behind the Nets.

Anthony said he did speak with Nuggets President Josh Kronke, but said he was told there is no deal on the table yet. That of course is the formal offer, the negotiations of that deal are ongoing.

Parameters of the trade between the Knicks and Nuggets seem to be shifting, likely because of conflicting views in the Knicks organization as to what should be offered. But as Howard Beck pointed out at the New York Times today, owner Dolan is driving the Knicks ‘Melo bus now. The deal will be largely his.

That deal was to be Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Eddy Curry and his expiring contract, and a to-be-acquired first round pick for Anthony, Chauncey Billups and Sheldon Williams.

But NBA TV reported the Nuggets want Timofey Mozgov and Landry Fields instead of Gallinari. Which would allow the Knicks to keep the prospect with the highest upside) but also it would give them a funky lineup of three forwards).

Anthony was asked if he thought he could fit in with the Knicks. What do you think he was going to say? Tommason tweeted his response.

“If that was to happen, that’s a great system for me. That’s a great system he has.’’

Knicks fans have been counting on that. And they may well get their wish.

Report: Knicks make formal offer for Carmelo Anthony, too

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The Nets and Denver reportedly have a deal in place for Carmelo Anthony, if he approves it.

Now the Knicks have apparently put their offer on the table.

According to Mark Spears of Yahoo (via twitter) the Knicks have offered Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Eddy Curry’s expiring contract (and Curry too, we suppose) plus a to-be-acquired first rounder for Anthony, Chauncey Billups and filler.

Spears later added this:

Melo said after Rookie Game on Knicks updated offer to DEN: “Obviously they feel like they want me.”

Now it comes down to people making a choice.

That starts with Anthony.

The Nuggets still prefer the upside of Derrick Favors and the multiple draft picks of the Nets offer to what the Knicks have on the table. If Anthony meets with Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov — he said this afternoon he knew of no plans for such a meeting — and is swayed then the Nuggets will consummate the deal with the Nets.

If no meeting and no approval of the Nets move takes place by ‘Melo, then it will be Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke who has to make a decision — will he accept the Knicks offer? Nuggets officials do not want to give Anthony what he wants — a $65 million extension and a trip to New York — but the alternative would be losing him this summer and getting nothing back. That price may be too steep, especially if one watches Cleveland and Toronto play this season.

The one thing everyone is saying around the All-Star Game festivities in Los Angeles — this is going to happen in the next few days. If not Sunday, then Monday. For one reason, everyone is ready for this to end. Plus Denver still will have other moves to make (J.R. Smith, Nene) so they will need a couple days.

Now we’re just waiting on somebody to — finally — make a decision.

‘Melo says nothing yet, but he hopes to have offer this weekend

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Carmelo Anthony spoke to the media for 20 minutes on Friday afternoon and was able to sound like an innocent bystander in his own trade drama.

“I don’t know/out of my control,” was his mantra as he said nothing was in place. No meetings are set with Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov or Knicks owner James Dolan. He has not gotten a call about or discussed any “legitmate” offers. He said if he is presented with one he would have to “think about” what to do.

But he did say he hopes that by the time he leaves Los Angeles after All-Star weekend.

“Before I leave (Los Angeles) I would love to have something on the table,” Anthony said. “I would love to have a legit offer on the table where we can sit down and they can say to me ‘this is what we have’ and we can figure it out….

“I hope it’s not at the 11th hour trade deadline. I do need my rest. I need to get some sleep. I don’t need that much stress on me.”

When asked about the actual options he tried to sound like a guy out of the loop, not at the center of the Melodrama that bears is name. As if his stand on signing an extension — with Denver or the Nets or the Knicks — is not what will decide how this all ends.

When asked about the report the Nets and Nuggets have a deal in place if he signs an extension he said that had not been discussed with him.

“I really don’t know where that’s at,” Anthony said. “As far as any agreement… I don’t know anything about that. I haven’t gotten any phone call as of this moment.”

He played the same card when asked about meetings with owners (even in the face of reports he met with Knicks owner Dolan last night, as reported by the New York Daily News).

“The Nuggets haven’t called me and said ‘we are close to a deal with New Jersey’ or anything like that,” Anthony said.

He did say the Nuggets had come to him before and said there was a deal on the table last month, right before Prokhorov got tired of being jerked around and pulled the Nets out of the talks.

He continued to say Denver is an option, even though he has had an extension from them sitting on the table since this summer he has not signed it. At this point, not sure Denver is on the hook, biting on that bait.

“The only thing I can control is signing that extension,” Anthony said. “There’s a lot of things I think about though, like what the future of the Denver Nuggets really is, what they are trying to do with the team, what the goal is in a couple years.”

The one thing he and everyone else agreed on — he wants this to end.

“I haven’t got no sleep in a week,” he said.

Nuggets and Nets reportedly agree on deal, leaving Anthony to determine his own fate


At long last, a deal is reportedly in place which would make Carmelo Anthony a Net…if he so chooses. According to Fred Kerber of the New York Post, New Jersey and Denver have agreed to terms on a deal that would bring the Anthony trade saga to its overdue conclusion.

However, as has been the case all along, finalization of the deal depends on Anthony himself. Should Anthony give his approval by way of agreeing to sign an extension with the Nets, this is the likely final form of the trade that will significantly alter the complexions of the two franchises (per the Post):

The Nets would send rookie Derrick Favors, point guard Devin Harris, forward Troy Murphy with his expiring $11.9 million contract, rookie guard Ben Uzoh, and four first-round draft picks to the Nuggets for Anthony, point guard Chauncey Billups, forwards Renaldo Balkman and Shelden Williams, and center Melvin Ely.

The Nets would surrender their first-round pick for June’s NBA Draft along with a pair of 2012 picks (a protected-to-18 pick received from the Lakers and a protected-to-7 pick from the Warriors), and a 2011 lottery-protected Rockets pick.

Ken Berger of CBSSports says that it is actually a three-team deal closer to one that had been in place before the Nets pulled out of talks previously. In this scenario the third team would get one of those four picks to take on the expiring contract of Troy Murphy. Al Iannazzone of the Bergen Record also reports that Murphy will be part of the deal, but indicates that Murphy would land with the Nuggets — a point which has been disputed in various reports.

Anthony will deny it, but he sure seems to have enjoyed this whole trade drama. In the same way some girls like to have all the guys fighting over them — they feign disgust but secretly love the attention — Anthony has said one thing but acted like a guy who wanted to be wooed more than he wanted to choose.

His people said he would only sign with the Knicks but did help facilitate the Nets talks. He kept saying nice things about the Nuggets. He tried to play all the angles.

Now, this weekend, Anthony has to actually make a choice.

Will he sign a three-year, $65 million extension with the New Jersey Nets or not? He is supposed to meet with both Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov and Knicks owner James Dolan this weekend in Los Angeles, where all three of them will be for All-Star Weekend. Either way, this weekend Anthony is going to get what he wanted: he is going to be wooed. Billionaires will be fighting over him.

The time for games is over. He has the leverage of the extension, if he really wants to be a Knick only then the Nuggets will have to deal with them and whatever they offer. If the Nets are in play there is no offer the Knicks can make the Nuggets will like as much as Favors and picks.

So Anthony — decide already. It’s time.