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Report: Knicks owner promises he won’t rehire Isiah Thomas


If at one time a statement can be no-brainer true and completely moot, this next sentence is it:

Knicks owner James Dolan has promised team president Donnie Walsh he will not rehire Isiah Thomas to work for the Knicks, according to the New York Post. The report says that Dolan has become disillusioned with Thomas and wants to rebut the idea Thomas still has influence within the organization.

It’s disturbing that it might have taken Dolan this long to become disillusioned with Thomas, but that’s another issue entirely.

The real question is if he is really disillusioned, or whether he is still talking and consulting with Thomas. Dolan says no, but so many voices around the Knicks still say Thomas has influence. It was that influence that prompted Dolan to jump in and spearhead the Carmelo Anthony deal for Walsh.

I’d explain why that is a bad idea, but the brilliant Kelly Dwyer hit that nail on the head at Ball Don’t Lie:

Also remember that “spearheading the Anthony deal” isn’t the best thing. The Knicks were going to get Anthony as a free agent whenever the lockout ended, and they didn’t need to send numerous assets and draft picks Denver’s way for the privilege of signing Anthony to a contract extension that will be out-moded and cap-killing once the new Collective Bargaining Agreement is hammered out. In a move that reeked of Isiah’s trade for Stephon Marbury, the Knicks got the guy but lost the team, and it’s hard to see this group improving any from here on out.

Yes, the Knicks will have only four players under contract in the summer of 2012, but those four players (thanks to Anthony’s massive, old school extension) might make up the entirety of the 2012-13 salary cap with their contracts.

So saying you will not hire Thomas is an obvious and simple move. And moot if you are still listening to him.

Isiah Thomas doesn’t deny he helped get ‘Melo to New York

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It’s never easy to tell reality with Isiah Thomas.

With him, the truth is messy and convoluted. You want to make it simple — “he was a terrible GM” — but reality is more complex (he made some very good draft picks and showed an eye for spotting talent out of college).

So it is with the recruitment of Carmelo Anthony to New York.

Knicks owner James Dolan stood on the podium and specifically denied that Thomas had consulted or influenced efforts to get Anthony to New York. Nobody around the Knicks believed that.

Thomas, in a fascinating and wide-ranging interview by Bill Reiter of Fox Sports, did not deny he was involved in the Knicks getting ‘Melo.

“I do have a lot of friends,” he says carefully. “And I am asked to advise in a lot of different scenarios. Players, coaches, and … ” A very long pause. “I won’t comment on the Knicks situation, but I do like helping the Knicks, and I do want them to do well.”

Right now, with the Knicks struggling to fit Anthony in and the team losing, plenty of Knicks fans would say this trade has all the markings of a Thomas move. But we do not know how it will turn out in a year or two.

Thomas in this interview vacillates between confident and needy. He desperately wants back in the NBA, he has confidence his friends will back him. To the point he pushed Reiter to call Charles Barkley right then and there, in front of him (without Barkley knowing Thomas was there).

Barkley, as always, was honest.

“He’s coaching right now,” Barkley says. “He got fired, and when you get fired you don’t just go get another job. He’s a great guy and I like him, but he made some bad decisions with the Knicks, like I think everyone knows. He has a job now, so that should be his No. 1 priority. Gotta do that.”

I hang up. I tell Isiah what Barkley said. His face falls.

Thomas all but admitted he struggles as a coach but sees himself as a good talent evaluator. His drafts were solid to very good, but his free agent choices in New York cut him and the franchise off at the knees. Thomas said his problem was more PR than actions.

Thomas was insanely confident of his skills as a player, comparing himself to Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.

“I have no problem saying this at all,” he says. “They’re all 6-(feet)-9 and Jordan was 6-6 and a half. If they were all 6-1, it wouldn’t even be a question. They wouldn’t even f—ing rate. If they were all my size, s—, they wouldn’t even be talked about.

“I beat the s— out of them when they were that big. If we were all the same size, f—.” He stops to laugh good-naturedly. “Make them 6-1 and let’s go on the court.”

Go read the entire article. Like Thomas himself it is conflicting and both impressive and sad all at once.

Former Nuggets staffer acknowledges trade rumors hurt play

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It was pretty clear by the end that impacts of the Carmelo Anthony trade rumors had bled onto the court for the Denver Nuggets. They were not the same team that started the season, the one that seemed to have potential.

Dean Oliver was a former front office guy and staticiscian for Denver who last month swtiched jobs to write and work for ESPN. Writing for TrueHoop, he provided some interesting insight into how the trade rumors really hit the Nuggets. He said early on it was not bad — and the Nuggets were winning. That changed.

But on January 9, in the early minutes of a home game against New Orleans, news leaked out that hometown hero Chauncey Billups was to be included in a potential trade package to go to the Nets, along with Anthony. As a member of the Denver front office at the time, I was in the arena that night. (I left the Nuggets to join ESPN a few weeks before the Anthony trade.) If there was a time when it looked like the public trade talk started hurting the Nuggets, it was then.

Almost half the team’s players saw their names out there as potential ex-Nuggets. It’s hard to work when your future is that tenuous. It’s hard for coaches to push players who may not have a long-term future with the team.

That Sunday night, with a very negative buzz in the arena, the team crawled to a 96-87 loss. Before a similar trade with New York finally got done, the Nuggets went just 12-10.

Oliver, a stats guy — THE stats guy — knows that a teams emotional state plays a big role, and it has with the Nuggets post trade.

Denver coach George Karl got his “play hard” team, and that’s what the Nuggets did right away: play hard. Since the deal, Denver’s defense has been just a hair behind the Bulls for best in the entire NBA, allowing more than 10 points per 100 possessions fewer than before the deal…

On the offensive side of the ball, the emotional impact is also clear, as the team is sharing the ball very well. Most of the players are using between 17 percent and 22 percent of the team’s possessions, a far cry from when Melo was using 31 percent. Assisted baskets are up to 63 percent, from only 54 percent prior to the deal.

Oliver goes on to talk about things such as how Ty Lawson has always played better as a starter (which is one reason Raymond Felton comes off the bench) and how this trade has been a boon for him.

Come the playoffs, it’s still hard to see Denver knocking off one of the big four teams in the West. But whoever gets them in the first round is going to have to work hard to knock them off. And if the other team isn’t willing to work hard…. somebody is going to get upset in the West. Denver could be that team moving on.