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Report: Clippers waiting on answer from Lamar Odom before extending offer to Antawn Jamison


Antawn Jamison met with new Clippers head coach Doc Rivers recently, and by all accounts there was a certain level of mutual interest.

But it appears now that Jamison will have to wait until another player decides if he’ll take what the Clippers are offering to pay to fill that roster spot for next season.

From Brad Turner of the Los Angeles Times:

Clippers informed former Laker Antawn Jamison team waiting on answer from Lamar Odom as preferred option before Jamison, sources.

Clippers willing to offer Lamar Odom vet. mim. of $1.4 million. Odom would like more, but no team has offered LO anything more.

Odom’s preference is to stay in Los Angeles, but he’d undoubtedly like his next deal to be for more than one season, even if the veteran’s minimum part holds true. But as we’ve detailed here before, Odom isn’t likely to have a ton of choices.

From Jamison’s side, it’s never easy to hear that you’re a team’s second choice — especially if they’ve been stringing you along up until this point.

From Mark Spears of Yahoo! Sports:

Free agent F Antawn Jamison was led to believe he was signing with LAC before being told today they preferred Lamar Odom, Y! source said.


It’s a tough situation, although if the Clippers are able to come to terms with Odom, it isn’t like Jamison won’t have other options.

But it’s easy to see why Odom is the first choice here. When mentally engaged, he’s obviously the much more versatile player. As has been the case at varying times throughout his career, the only question will be whether he can sustain that focus over the entire course of the season.

Mark Cuban talks in some detail about Mavericks’ decisions, past and present

Mark Cuban,  Brian Forte

Mark Cuban can be as guarded as anyone in interviews — he sets the company line, but the NBA can be a place where details are few and far between from the mouths of cautious exeutives.

Flying in the face of that, Cuban took to his personal blog Saturday with a 3,300 word missive, talking about the Mavericks decision making past and present. He’s letting fans in on his thinking, and that’s a good thing — a certain level of communication and honesty helps build fan loyalty (just don’t undercut your trading/negotiating positions).

You should go read the entire thing, this is just the top of the iceberg, but here are some highlights.

Let’s go back to the lockout season — the Mavericks were defending NBA champions thanks to a veteran squad that came together at the right time, but Cuban decided not to get the band back together for another run. He talked about that decision.

But what we have not discussed publicly was our concern of bringing back an older team in a shortened season. We basically saw the 2011-12 season as a throw away no matter who we signed. With out the time to prepare and get their bodies ready, throwing a team with an older starting lineup right into the fire was going to be tough. Young guys can walk into an NBA game any day of the year. Get to your mid 30s, not so much. So to bring the gang back, we would basically be losing a year. When you look at keeping together an older team and the first year after your championship is a lost year, it’s hard to justify keeping an older team together. But we were the champs. That meant a lot…

So we made the decision to stick with the folks we had under contract for the lockout season. We made a trade that we would thought would help, but obviously turned into a disaster. The good news was that it was a compressed season and we thought it would go by quickly and after the season we would have cap room to go after players we thought would be impact players and also fit our culture.

The trade being referenced was for Lamar Odom. Disaster is an accurate word. Odom completely fell apart and with it the Mavericks reboot never got going in any way.

Cuban next goes on to reiterate he will not trade Dirk Nowitzki — not now, not ever. He says that Nowitzki is at the cure of the culture he wants the Mavericks to have – hard working, selfless, professional. These are things Cuban has said before, but he was direct about it.

He also addressed going after Dwight Howard this year (putting up the video he displayed to entice him).

Let me address here the inevitable question of Dwight vs Mavs culture. We saw it as somewhat of a risk, but felt like because Dwight by all appearances and checking we did, is a good guy and with our support systems we believed we could make it work. If not, he was obviously a very trade-able asset. But, as everyone knows, we didn’t sign him. He went to the Rockets. I do have to say the meeting with Dwight was very interesting. He is a smart guy. Much smarter than people give him credit for…

Would i do it the same way again ? In a heartbeat. Why ? Because in the NBA, like in the non-sports business world you have to take chances in order to be rewarded. You have to be smart and you have to be more than a little lucky.

Then Cuban goes on to why he doesn’t believe in tanking, and why the Mavericks are not going to blow the roster up and go “woeful for Wiggins” — something a number of NBA teams are doing. They call it the Oklahoma City method, where you are bad for a few years in a row and keep drafting talent, even if that method involves a lot of luck to go with drafting skill.

What I do know, at least what I think i have learned from my experiences in business is that when there is a rush for everyone to do the same thing, it becomes more difficult to do . Not easier. Harder. It also means that as other teams follow their lead, it creates opportunities for those who have followed a different path.

I see quite a few teams taking what appears to be the same approach to building a team. I can understand why they are taking this approach. In the current CBA the value of a player chosen in the draft can be considerable because of the defined contract terms. And if you put together some great young players, it is very enticing to want to keep those players together for a long period.

But I also know that even if you have the worst record in the NBA, you may not get the top pick and even if you do, there is a material chance you pick the wrong player, or it just happens to be a draft when there are not any IDENTIFIABLE superstar potential players at the top of the draft. In other words, while it may be popular i think the quantity of teams taking the same approach makes it more difficult to build a team in this manner.

Cuban is right about the risks and difficulty of this approach — like an executive said to me in Las Vegas at Summer League, it was much easier for the Thunder to use this approach when they were the only one.

Going forward, Cuban is positive about the Mavericks this year, which is his norm. But with a healthy Nowitzki, Monta Ellis and Jose Calderon plus some solid role players they could well be a playoff team in the West (not top five, but in the mix). Then you head into next summer with Nowitzki taking a pay cut (as he said he would), Shawn Marion off the books and they can go after another big money player.

Players speak well of the Dallas organization now (a radical change from when Cuban took over the franchise) and eventually he is going to land one of these stars he is chasing. I may not be as high on his team as he is, there is no doubt he built a culture that will sustain winning, and that is an impressive feat.

Odom wants to stay in L.A., but does anyone want him?

Lamar Odom

Greg Oden, who last played in the NBA in 2009 and has had multiple major knee surgeries since then, got a contract for next season before Lamar Odom.

Which tells you about how far Odom’s stock has fallen.

He is battling Antawn Jamison and Al Harrington for the “veteran forward at the end of the bench” role and is losing out. His apparently rocky personal life is all over the tabloids and that is a distraction most teams do not want around, which when combined with his wishes for where to live and ideally wanting more than the league minimum has made it difficult to get a deal done.

In a Q&A this weekend, Ira Winderman of the Sun Sentinel gave a small update on the Odom question from a Heat perspective.

Word is Lamar’s preference is to remain in Los Angeles. But if he is amenable to the minimum, I would have to think Pat Riley would find a place for him in Miami. While he has not been the same player the past two seasons, he still would have value as a utility player, if he is willing to accept such a role.

This is a good jumping off point to break down where Odom stands.

Let’s start here: wherever Odom plays next season in the NBA it will be for the league minimum. At this point that’s all that teams are handing out (the teams that can or might be willing to hand out more are not places Odom wants to play). Odom is now 34 years old and he has seen a serious drop in his efficiency the past two seasons (PERs of 9.2 and 10.9) — even if you think he can bounce back, he can’t do it to his Sixth Man of the Year levels.

Both the Lakers and Clippers have had conversations with Odom, but there has been no deal.

The Clippers have the roster spot and could use the front court depth (unless you think Ryan Hollins and Byron Mullens are the answers) but the fact they had him on their team last season and haven’t made an offer to bring him back is telling. The Clippers are meeting with Jamison instead.

The Lakers also have the roster spot and it felt like they were getting the old band back together with Jordan Farmar returning. But the fact is they need athleticism and youth. Odom doesn’t bring those things anymore.

Miami is unlikely. With the signing of Greg Oden, the Heat have 14 guys on the roster. Technically Jarvis Varnado’s deal is not guaranteed, but the Heat also have some interest in second round draft pick James Ennis. Maybe Miami would have interest, and you would think Odom would be comfortable there (having played there before), but it’s not likely. Are the Heat really looking to add a tabloid distraction to the locker room?

So here we sit, with Odom still on the market. Eventually he is going to get a shot somewhere, but the question is where? And when? It might not come until after camps open and due to injuries or performance teams start to look at who is still on the market.