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Report: Rockets asking for two first round picks in any trade for Omer Asik


We told you that the Rockets were more than willing to deal troubled big man Omer Asik, but that the asking price was extremely high — so high, in fact, that one rival GM called Houston “delusional” in terms of what the team was expecting to net in return on the open market.

Now we have word of exactly what the asking price has been, and delusional doesn’t begin to describe it.

From Alan Hahn of MSG Networks:

It’s December, so the NBA trade market heats up. #Knicks, like others, are shopping, what’s available?

Not much.

The name that is dominating the early rumors is Omer Asik of the Rockets. The disgruntled center can be had, but Houston isn’t just giving him away.

In fact, the Rockets are setting the market high for Asik, with a demand of two first round picks in any deal.

Basic negotiation theory tells you to begin any discussion with an unrealistically high price if you’re the seller in order to artificially inflate the market for your product or service. But you don’t want to go too high, lest you risk offending the buying party to the point where they’ll break off talks together, or be unwilling to engage entirely.

That’s where the Rockets are right now. No one is giving up two first round draft picks for Asik, even though as a player he’s highly thought of by general managers as someone who could anchor a team’s defense inside.

The teams that would have the most interest in Asik are likely fringe contenders that need another strong piece to push them over the top. The Knicks, for example, with Tyson Chandler out due to injury and both Amar’e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin being somewhere between hobbled and ineffective this season, would love to talk about dealing for Asik. But they have already mortgaged the future, and have no first round picks to deal until 2018.

Asik isn’t getting dealt at all this season unless that price comes down, but something tells us that Houston may become a lot more reasonable if Asik continues to be a non-factor for them as the trade deadline approaches.

Report: Knicks’ Woodson not on hot seat but management wants lineup changes

Atlanta Hawks v New York Knicks

Mike Woodson is not to blame for everything going on with the New York Knicks — he’s a good NBA coach trying to do the best he can with an ill-fitting roster. Last season New York was able to knock down a lot of threes and get 54 wins thanks to Carmelo Anthony having a career year (as did a couple other Knicks), but after roster changes this summer the threes are not falling this season, J.R. Smith isn’t himself and Tyson Chandler is out for a month as the defense swoons.

That sounds like a recipe for the front office to scapegoat a coach and ship him out of town, but Woodson’s job is safe in New York, reports the New York Daily News.

However, management is pressuring him to change the rotations, Frank Isola says in the report.

Despite the Knicks’ 3-6 start and five straight home losses, Woodson is not in imminent danger, according to a source, of being the next Knicks head coach to “resign” — which is Garden-speak for canned. If Lenny Wilkens and Mike D’Antoni both resigned, so will Woodson. Count on it.

Until then, the coach is safe, but the word from above is to tinker with the starting lineup, which likely will include shifting soon-to-be-traded Iman Shumpert to the bench and likely promoting veteran tough guy Kenyon Martin. The move allows Anthony to play small forward while placing a rebounding and defensive-minded forward next to Andrea Bargnani, a non-rebounding, defensively challenged forward/center.

Deck chairs on the Titanic comes to mind.

Actually, things are not that dire — at some point next month it is likely Chandler returns to help the defense and solidify them inside. Smith will find his stroke again. The Knicks are a playoff team in the East.

Just nothing more than that.

The Knicks thrived last year with Anthony having a career year playing mostly the four and everyone else fitting in around him, especially Smith. This season the Knicks seem committed to having him at the three again and using Bargnani to space the floor. The results have been uncomfortable. I’m not sure how you really can fit all these pieces together to make it work.

But that’s Woodson’s job. Combine all that with owner James Dolan’s unpredictability and it’s not hard to see how Woodson could become the scapegoat.

Andrea Bargnani has a huge night for Knicks (VIDEO)

Andrea Bargnani

Things were starting to get dire for the Knicks, at least as much as they can be so grim just five games into the 82-game regular season.

Tyson Chandler was lost for 4-6 weeks due to injury, and with a lack of healthy bigs on the roster while Kenyon Martin and Amar’e Stoudemire struggle with health issues of their own and minutes restrictions to go along with them, Andrea Bargnani was turned to for help, as sketchy as that sounds.

Bargnani had been tentative and unproductive on both ends of the floor in his first few games of the season, but he broke out in a big way during New York’s win over the Bobcats on Friday — a team that had beaten them just three days prior.

The play of Bargnani was largely unfamiliar, but it was a welcome sight when the Knicks needed it the most. He finished with 25 points, eight rebounds, three assists and five blocked shots, to the delight of his teammates and coaches.

From Ian Begley of ESPN New York:

From the first day Andrea Bargnani set foot in the Knicks practice facility, coaches and teammates have been asking him to play with some aggression.

On Friday night, the message finally sank in.

“I guess he was just tired of hearing it,” Carmelo Anthony said. …

“The coaches and my teammates are helping me a lot and they’re trying to do their best to make the adjustment smooth,” Bargnani said. “But I got to help them, play my game … go out there and do what I’ve always done all these years.” …

“He can’t tease me because I’m going to expect that from him every time he steps out on the floor,” Mike Woodson said.

Things change significantly for the Knicks if Bargnani can help them even remotely closely to the way he did on Friday. They’ll have J.R. Smith back from suspension for Sunday’s game against the Spurs (if he’s healthy enough to go), so that will immediately help the offense.

Bargnani has been known to be able to put up points at times, albeit somewhat inefficiently. And he was 11-of-25 from the field in this one, so, that’s still a thing. But if he can rebound and defend like he did in his latest outing, or even to the point where he’s not a James Harden-like liability on that end of the floor, New York might be able to sustain some consistency until Chandler makes it back.

Carmelo Anthony led closed door meeting with Knicks’ players after Bobcats loss

Charlotte Bobcats v New York Knicks

There are dark clouds over Madison Square Garden right now (figuratively, the Weather Channel makes it sound like a normal fall day there).

The Knicks are 1-3 to start the season, lost to the Bobcats at home in their last game, and now will be without Tyson Chandler — one of the two guys they simply could not afford to lose for a stretch — for 4-to-6 weeks with a broken fibula. That is going to mean forcing Kenyon Martin into more action than he may be physically ready for (he was on a minutes restriction), same with Amare Stoudemire, it means more Cole Aldrich, and maybe worst of all more Andrea Bargnani. While you can make the argument this could be good for the Knicks’ offense if it forces Mike Woodson to go back to Anthony at the four, the defense is going to be awful.

On top of it all they even cut back on the dancers.

It looks like a tough month ahead for the Knicks faithful.

To stem that tide, Carmelo Anthony said he called a closed-door meeting after the Knicks fell to the Bobcats this week. Ian Begley at ESPNNewYork.com has the quotes.

“We shut the door after the game and talked it out a little bit and tried to figure out what was happening,” Anthony said Friday…

“We’ve got to want it, we’ve got to want to do it. We’ve got to believe in ourselves, and right now we’re playing like we don’t even believe in ourselves,” Anthony said. “It’s just effort….

“You cannot turn the ball over if you want to be a good team in this league,” Anthony said. “Hopefully the conversation we had after that game made everybody realize that although it is early there are some things we need to fix and we need to fix now.”

Turnovers aren’t good, but that’s not been the Knicks biggest problem (they turn the ball over on 17.6 percent of their possessions, 12th in the NBA so far). The biggest issue has been their offense (23rd in the league) where they are not sharing the ball that much which is leading to contested shots, they are not getting to the free throw line, plus they are not getting many offensive rebounds and second chances.

Whatever Anthony said the Knicks need this meeting to work — the offense has to get better because the defense is about to get a lot worse. The Knicks have been almost 15 points per 100 possessions worse when Tyson Chandler sits, and now he is going to be sitting for a while. The offense needs to win the Knicks some games so they are not trying to dig out of too big a hole after Christmas.

Knicks coach Woodson says he’s not worried about job security, won’t look over his shoulder

Mike Woodson, Carmelo Anthony

The Knicks are off to a slow 1-3 start to the season, and despite the very legitimate reasons for the early losses, a team that finished second in the Eastern Conference a year ago isn’t expected to be patient while things sort themselves out.

Mike Woodson is finding his seat to be a bit warm just a couple of weeks into the season, and the loss of defensive anchor Tyson Chandler due to injury isn’t likely to help New York in turning things around anytime soon.

Just four games in, however, Woodson can’t possibly begin to wonder if his job is in jeopardy if he’s going to be able to ride out this early season storm. He said as much during an interview with ESPN Radio on Wednesday, and added that he wouldn’t be coaching with one eye looking over his shoulder.

From Ohm Youngmisuk of ESPN New York:

“I have been at this thing 30 years,” Woodson said in an interview on ESPN New York 98.7 radio. “And the one thing I never and will never do is look over my shoulder. I won’t do that. I got too much pride for that. I think what we have done here for the last few years, we made some major ground and some major steps.

“But this is a different year. That team that played and won 54 games is not here. It is my job as a coach to get this team to gel and play at a high level. If I got to always look over my shoulders, then I can’t do my job, so that is why I never do that. Try to look ahead, that is what is staring at me right now.”

Any struggles to this point aren’t exactly Woodson’s fault, as he’s largely been playing the hand he’s been dealt. Starting Andrea Bargnani in favor of Metta World Peace is a decision worth questioning, but the starting lineup hasn’t been the sole contributing factor in the team’s struggles.

Carmelo Anthony has been tentative in fourth quarters, Amar’e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin haven’t been physically ready to play, and the reigning Sixth Man of the Year in J.R. Smith hasn’t yet seen the court while still serving his five-game suspension for violating the league’s drug policy.

Very little of what’s going on in New York right now is Woodson’s fault, and he knows that just four games into the season. Coaching in New York comes with it a very intense spotlight, but Woodson’s straightforward approach and even temperament is well-suited to handle that challenge.