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Report: Celtics and Clippers discussing a trade for Austin Rivers


The main purpose of the three-team trade that’s brewing between the Celtics, Grizzlies and Pelicans is to send Jeff Green to Memphis, without the Grizzlies having to cross over the luxury tax threshold to get him.

But the ancillary players in the deal, and where they may ultimately end up, is also something that’s becoming rather interesting.

Austin Rivers was a late inclusion in the deal from the New Orleans side, but it appears as though Boston, already loaded four-deep at the guard position, is looking to send him elsewhere — even before a trade has officially been finalized. And the Clippers, where Austin’s father Doc is the head coach and president of basketball operations, are reportedly interested.

From Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports:

Boston’s on phones now, trying to find a deal to move on Austin Rivers, league sources tell Yahoo.

Yahoo Sources: Within front office and coaching staff, officials pushing president/coach Doc Rivers to bring his son, Austin, to Clippers.

Austin’s 22, pending free agent. Clips searching for PG depth. Front office/ assistants telling Doc: Forget his last name. This makes sense.

Celtics willing to move A. Rivers for 2nd-round pick. For Clippers, it’s free look at 10th overall pick — who’d only be college senior now.

Celtics and Clippers discussing a deal for Austin Rivers, league sources tell Yahoo, but Boston doesn’t want salary back next season.

The Clippers played an afternoon contest at Staples Center on Saturday, and Doc told reporters he’d be open to bringing in his son.

From Arash Markazi of ESPN Los Angeles:

Doc said after the game he would be open to coaching his son, Austin.

Doc on coaching Austin: “I would. I think a year ago I probably wouldn’t. I think I would for sure. I think this team could handle that.”

Doc on Austin: “He’s a downhill guard, which is something we need so I certainly would (be open to coaching him).”

Doc Rivers is well-respected in the Clippers locker room, and it’s difficult to see him handling this situation unprofessionally if it were to arise, to the point where it would cause some kind of distraction.

Since losing Darren Collison in free agency last summer, the Clippers are extremely thin at the point guard position. Jordan Farmar is logging the the bulk of the backup minutes there with an average of 14.7 per game, but he’s barely serviceable, and surpassing what he brings to the table wouldn’t be a very high bar for Austin Rivers to reach.

Austin is an unrestricted free agent this summer, which is part of the reason New Orleans is looking to move him after declining his contract option for next season. The Clippers are desperately in need of young and inexpensive talent that the team can develop, which is something we discussed on this week’s podcast. Austin might be good example of that; the fit makes sense, it’s just a matter of whether or not the father-son relationship can be set aside, and the Clippers can do something to bring him on without sending back salary Boston’s way.

Report: Clippers interested in 76ers guard Tony Wroten

Tony Wroten, Spencer Hawes

Anthony Davis is not the youngest player leading his team in scoring this season.

That honor goes to Tony Wroten, more than a month Davis’ junior. The 76ers guard is averaging 17.4 points and 5.3 assists per game at age 21, impressive marks to be sure.

But how valuable is Wroten? Has he truly broken out, or is he just putting up numbers on a tanking team with few other options? After all, Evan Turner was scoring at a similar clip in Philadelphia last season, and he totally fell off after the Pacers traded for him.

For what it’s worth, the Clippers reportedly see something in Wroten.

Dan Woike of the Orange County Register:

The Clippers and 76ers completed a trade earlier today for Jared Cunningham, a mostly financial deal that allowed the Clippers to clear a little room below the hard cap. Wroten wasn’t involved, but that trade at least indicates Doc Rivers and Sam Hinkie can work together.

The Clippers have adequate backup guards in Jamal Crawford and Jordan Farmar, so Wroten would be more of a luxury. It’s tough to see the Clippers, especially with their hard cap, making a deal work. But Rivers has shown a propensity for valuing a deeper bench over future flexibility, so there’s a chance to he takes the necessary steps.

Wroten is under contract for next season, and he’ll be a restricted free agent after that. There’s no urgency for the 76ers to trade him, unless they believe he’s a poor long-term fit with Michael Carter-Williams and this is the time to sell high. Wroten at least won’t interfere with Philadelphia tanking for a high pick this year.

I doubt Wroten winds up in Los Angeles, but the Clippers’ interest is intriguing – whether Rivers just likes Wroten or is searching for a backcourt upgrade.

Report: Clippers trade Jared Cunningham to Sixers

Minnesota Timberwolves v Los Angeles Clippers

The Clippers really did like Jared Cunningham, the athleticism he brought as a combo guard. They brought him in as a third point guard and he hasn’t seen many minutes — 89 total this season — behind Chris Paul and Jordan Farmar, but he was a good insurance policy.

However, what the Clippers needed more was money and a roster space as they try to get better at the trade deadline.

Rather than cut him outright, the Clippers traded him, reports Adrian Wojnaroski of Yahoo Sports.

The question yet to be answered is what comes back to the Clippers in this deal (likely a protected second round pick at best).

Cunningham is a fringe NBA player right out of the “everything that the AAU does wrong” mold — he’s an incredibly athletic and very raw basketball player. He doesn’t really have the handles to be a playmaking point guard and he lacks the shooting skills to be a threat as a two guard. The Cavaliers took him with the No. 24 pick a few drafts ago but gave up on his development.

We’ll see if another team will take him on as a gamble or if he is headed to the D-League.

Kobe Bryant on Julius Randle playing with Kobe, for Byron Scott: ‘If you f— this up, you’re a really big idiot’

Los Angeles Lakers Media Day

Lakers coach Byron Scott is trying to motivate rookie Julius Randle by publicly calling him out for not being in good enough shape. Repeatedly.

If that seems harsh, you should see Kobe Bryant’s words for the No. 7 pick.

Remember, this is the same Kobe who called ESPN voters who ranked him the NBA’s 40th-best player “idiots.”

Kobe on Randle playing with Kobe, for Scott:

If you f— this up, you’re a really big idiot. You know what I mean? ESPN are idiots, but you’re a really big idiot if you manage to f— this up.

Unfortunately, it really doesn’t work that way. The best players, even those with championship experience, don’t necessarily make the best mentors and coaches. They can’t just transfer their knowledge and skills through osmosis.

While Kobe has played for the Lakers, a dozen other first-round picks have made their debuts:

  • Javaris Crittenton
  • Jordan Farmar
  • Andrew Bynum
  • Sasha Vujacic
  • Brian Cook
  • Kareem Rush
  • Mark Madsen
  • Devean George
  • Tyronn Lue
  • Sam Jacobson

And here are first-round picks who made their debuts on teams Scott coached:

  • Tyler Zeller:
  • Dion Waiters
  • Tristan Thompson
  • Kyrie Irving
  • Christian Eyenga
  • Darren Collison
  • Julian Wright
  • Hilton Armstrong
  • Cedric Simmons
  • Chris Paul
  • J.R. Smith
  • Zoran Planinic
  • Brandon Armstrong
  • Jason Collins
  • Richard Jefferson
  • Kenyon Martin

Scott seems to have a much better record of player development than Kobe, both are far from perfect. Perhaps, all the busts just screwed it up themselves, but I think it’s more likely neither Scott nor Kobe provide a perfect Petri dish for rookies to grow.

Unquestionably, Randle can learn from Kobe and Scott. And, so far, it seems Randle has the talent to succeed.

But even if Randle takes every reasonable step, it’s still possible he fails as an NBA player. It’s far to soon to declare he’ll make it – even with Kobe and Scott around.

Free agency signing period opens: Spencer Hawes, Marcin Gortat among first to put ink to paper

via @MGortat

While free agency in the NBA has been in full swing since July 1, players and teams could only reach agreements up until now. Handshake deals.

Starting July 10 those handshakes turn into signed contracts.

Here is a list of who signed where, as of now (these are not rumors, just done deals with ink on paper). We will continue to update this list as deals get announced.

• The Cleveland Cavaliers have made announcement — Kyrie Irving has officially signed his max five year extension. What, you were expecting something else?

• The three-team Cavaliers trade that frees them up enough money to give LeBron James a max contract has gone through, the Cavaliers announced. Brooklyn gets Jarrett Jack and Sergey Karasev, the Celtics get Tyler Zeller and the Cavs’ 2016 first round pick (top 10 protected), while the Cavaliers get cap space as well as Boston’s 2015 second round pick (top 55 protected) and the rights to Ilkan Karaman and Edin Bavcic.

• Chandler Parsons was hanging out in a club with Mark Cuban and some other random guys, and signed the paperwork on his offer sheet with Dallas. Got to love that Cuban did that in a club. The two sides talked sign-and-trade for a while but that fell apart and the Rockets now have the offer sheet in hand. That means the clock is ticking at 72 hours to match — if they want to sign Chris Bosh and match Parsons the Rockets have a lot of moves to make very quickly (and they need LeBron to make his decision sooner rather than later).

• Steve Blake and Chris Kaman have both left the Lakers to sign with the Trail Blazers.

• Spencer Hawes and Jordan Farmar formally signed their deals to join the Los Angeles Clippers — Hawes gets the full mid-level and four years, $23 million, Farmar signs for two years and $4.2 million total, with a player option for the second year. But really the best part of this is the shorts Hawes wore to the signing.

• Marcin Gortat also put ink to paper on a five-year, $60 million deal.

• Kyle Lowry formally re-signed with the Toronto Raptors and will speak to the media Thursday.

• Gordon Hayward formally signed a three-year, $46 million offer sheet with a player option the third year with the Charlotte Hornets. The Jazz have 72 hours to match and are expected to do so.