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Why the bottleneck on NBA trades? Calendar and Howard.


We’re a couple months into the NBA season, and there have been very few trades.

Before the season we had some biggies — Chris Paul to the Lakers, er, Clippers — but once the season started, that has dried up.

And you can expect things to stay pretty much dry past the All-Star game at the end of the month. Why? A couple reasons, neither of which will be resolved by then.

We’ll let Marc Stein at ESPN explain the first.

In a normal NBA season, free agents who ink contracts in the offseason can’t be traded for three months from the date they signed or Dec. 15, whichever falls later. The rule, though, had to be amended because of the lockout, which pushed free agency back to Dec. 9 for the 2011-12 season.

Free agents who signed contracts for this lockout-shortened campaign thus can’t be traded for two months from the signing date or March 1, whichever falls later. In 20 days, then, every team in the league will have more contracts to plug into deals to satisfy salary-cap requirements, which could serve as a useful impetus to help trigger activity before the March 15 trading deadline.

Put simply, the Nets would love to make a big move but can’t trade Kris Humphries, DeShawn Stevenson, Shawne Williams or Shelden Williams before March 1.

The other issue, as we have discussed here before at PBT (and Stein mentions as well) is the Dwight Howard situation. As happened with Carmelo Anthony and other big deals in the past, sometime smaller trades get bottlenecked behind a big one as teams hold on to their cards seeing if they can get in the game. To use an example, again with New Jersey, if the Magic were to suddenly trade Howard to the Lakers (not likely but possible) then the Nets would have a lot of players they could move and likely would shop Deron Williams around.

But until the Magic make a move, the Nets and a lot of GMs will keep their powder dry. And the Magic aren’t making any move before the All-Star weekend.

So, we wait. There may be a small deal or two, but don’t expect much.

Report: Dwight Howard adds Clippers to list of places he’d sign

Magic's Howard meditates just before the tip-off of their NBA basketball game with the New York Knicks in New York

Dwight Howard with Blake Griffin and Chris Paul?

Take that Miami. This would be the new Big Three. Howard apparently likes the idea — almost as much as Clippers fans. No matter how unlikely it is in reality.

Howard has added the Clippers to the list of teams he would sign an extension with, reports Chris Sheridan at Sheridan Hoops. The Clips are on the list with the Lakers, Nets and Mavericks. Oh, and theoretically the Magic.

“He’s been watching them a lot. He’s intrigued by the Clippers,” said the source, who is privy to the trade talks that have taken place between all of the aforementioned teams.

That source also said it now appears more likely that Howard will play out the season with the Magic.

We keep hearing that if there is going to be any movement of Dwight Howard it will be after the All-Star Game in Orlando the last weekend of February. Then it’s a matter if the Magic think they are contenders, if they can keep Howard after the season, and if they like the offers coming back (not that they may have a lot of choices).

The difficulty in getting working a deal with the Clippers is finding pieces that the Magic want back. Eric Gordon and the Minnesota pick in this draft were the best trade chips the Clippers had, but they sent both to New Orleans to get Chris Paul. The Clippers can get a deal that meets the CBA requirements with DeAndre Jordan, Maurice Williams and Eric Bledsoe, but do you really think the Magic will think that’s enough? (Plus, D’Andre Jordan cannot be traded without his permission until July 1 under terms of the new CBA.) There is not a lot on that Clippers roster people want outside of the stars that Los Angeles is not giving up.

Unless you’re willing to send Griffin to the Magic… exactly. Not happening.

Also remember that both Griffin and Paul will command max deals starting with the 2013-14 season — add Howard to that mix and you’re asking Donald Sterling to pay a lot of luxury tax. That is not the profitable model the Clippers are built on and to expect a radical change is to expect Republican evangelical Christians to throw their support behind Barack Obama.

Sheridan says that Howard does not want to be traded to the Nets at the deadline as even if that happened he would miss the playoffs this year. He could go there as a free agent. Dallas has grand plans of finding some sucker to take on Shawn Marion’s deal so they have the cap room to sign both Howard and Deron Williams this summer.

Which might make the Lakers the big players at the table come the deadline — they can offer Andrew Bynum and parts. The Lakers are not giving up Bynum and Pau Gasol, but if the Magic think they have lost Howard this summer Bynum might be the best building block going forward. Even with the risks. It’s better than getting nothing.

But the Clippers are on the list now too, so speculate away.

Wednesday And-1 links, where Nets fans want Dwight Howard

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Welcome to our morning look around the NBA — links to stories worth reading and notes to check out (stuff that did not get its own post here at PBT).

Nets fans started a chant of “we want Howard” at the team’s home opener Tuesday. No, Deron Williams did not start it. As far as we know.

The Raptors have a 1,300-pound rock in their dressing room. Yes, intentionally. (I would nickname the rock Oliver Miller, but that’s just me.)

J.J. Barea tweaked his hamstring in the second half against the Bucks and requested out, then was later seen limping in the locker room. He is officially day-to-day but may miss few. (He seems to have good chemistry with Ricky Rubio, by the way).

Great stat from John Schuhmann of NBA.com: 2011-12 Timberwolves clutch-time shooting – Beasley: 2-for-10. Everyone else: 3-for-7.

Boston’s Chris Wilcox will miss Wednesday’s game against the Hornets due to a sore shoulder.

Boston could use more size up front, Erik Dampier anyone?

You really should consider picking up a copy of Basketball Prospectus for this season.

The Lakers Matt Barnes has a hip injury and did not play against Utah because of it. He may miss Thursday against the Knicks, too.

Talking about the Lakers struggles with the pick-and-roll.

Bethlehem Shoals at GQ wonders if Chris Paul was feeding Chauncey Billups to keep him happy and get him settled, knowing the lobs to Blake Griffin will come later?

DeAndre Jordan wants to be the defensive player of the year. Note to DeAndre: That requires more than just racking up blocks, when you give up rebounding position to go after blocks and your team gets killed on the glass it’s not good defense.

The Cavs top pick Kyrie Irving was 2-for-12 shooting in his first game. The good news was six assists to just one turnover. But Jose Calderon abused him pretty bad. Irving is good but has a ways to go yet.

Joe Johnson says he doesn’t feel any pressure from his bloated contract.

Jan Vesley has the flu and will not be on the Wizards two-game road trip. That following a hip injury. But the rookie will play someday.

The Wizards Maurice Evans had his knee drained. Early in the season for that.

Just a reminder before tonight’s Golden State vs. New York clash that the Warriors went very hard after Tyson Chandler in free agency, but the Knicks had the money.

Manu Ginobili defends the 2-on-1 fast break about as well as you can.

Bucks rookie forward Jon Leuer scored 14 points on 5-of-7 shooting, added eight rebounds and two blocks in 20 minutes off the bench on Tuesday. He plays a smart game, stays within himself. Mature game for a rookie.

Manny Harris might have made the Cavs roster had it not been for a new cold-therapy treatment gone too far.

A really interesting discussion of advanced basketball statistics, interpretation and context.

Report: Magic want veterans, not to rebuild after Howard

Orlando Magic v Oklahoma City Thunder

Right now, the Dwight Howard soap opera is on hiatus.

The Magic have stopped all trade talk and are focusing on this season and convincing Howard to stay in Orlando. I’m pretty sure opening day did not help their cause. In the least.

Eventually Orlando is going to have to trade Howard. His demand is still on the table and he is not likely to re-sign there — they have to get something for him. But that something is not young players because the Magic are not looking to strip down and rebuild just yet, reports Marc Stein at ESPN.com.

Sources familiar with Orlando’s thinking say that a picture of what the Magic will ultimately expect in return for their anchor has indeed begun to emerge, telling ESPN.com this week that Orlando would not hold out for youth and draft picks as the league-owned New Orleans Hornets were ordered to do in the Chris Paul sweepstakes. The Magic, sources say, would instead prefer to bring back multiple established veterans who can keep the team competitive.

Reason being: Orlando has moved into a new arena last season and has an 85-year-old owner in Rich De Vos. Sources say De Vos has little interest in starting over/rebuilding, as evidenced by the recent decisions to trade for Glen “Big Baby” Davis and re-sign Jason Richardson even though Howard’s future is so murky.

The Magic will not get equal value in trading Howard away. You never do when you trade a superstar. But to demand veterans so you can be competitive means the Magic are likely headed for mediocrity — the dangerous NBA middle ground. Teams that are good enough to make the playoffs but not be contenders; teams that are not bad enough to go up in the draft and get a superstar that way. They get stuck in that middle with no easy way out.

The one deal that seemed closest to happening was a three team trade where the Magic got Brook Lopez from the Nets and Gerald Wallace out of Portland, with Howard going to New Jersey. That is what I’m taking about — the Magic would be good, a playoff team, but nowhere near the Heat or Bulls. Or even the Knicks.

I like better what Utah did, what New Orleans did trading their stars. They got good young players and picks that jump-start the rebuilding process.

But that may not be Orlando’s plan. It’s something to watch for. This trade may be different than most superstar trades.

Lopez injury limits Orlando’s Dwight Howard trade options


The foot injury to Nets center Brook Lopez has not left the Dwight Howard trade stuck in the mud.

It was already there.

Orlando has put the breaks on the process — they are not ready to trade Howard. Maybe they think they can convince him to stay, maybe they think the offers improve closer to the deadline. Until the Magic are ready to deal, everyone is just spinning their wheels and kicking up mud.

But when the Magic do decide is time, they will find their options limited.

The Nets were one of the three teams Dwight Howard said he would sign an extension with if traded. (The Lakers and the Mavericks are the others.) The Nets were considered the frontrunner because Howard wanted to be there and because of a package of picks and players — with Lopez at the heart of it.

But is that going to happen now? There are a lot of questions.

Do the Magic still want Lopez as a centerpiece? Foot issues can linger and it sounds like the Nets want to rush Lopez back — they are saying four-to-six weeks for an injury that takes months to heal. Look at Roddy Beaubois in Dallas, he had this same injury, was out more than five months and was not the same player when he returned.

Can the Nets get other teams involved? Check out this tweet from ESPN’s Marc Stein.

In last week’s proposal, Nets offered five first-round picks and recruited Blazers to send Gerald Wallace to Magic. They need more help now

Are the Lakers in the driver’s seat? Maybe. They are offering Andrew Bynum and maybe Pau Gasol too (depends on who you ask). If the Magic decide to deal tomorrow the Lakers have the best package of guys they can ship out ready to play. But this goes back to the first thing we said — until the Magic decide deal, nobody is really in the best position to make a trade.

The Nets have one other concern — Deron Williams. The Nets are going to suck this season. Even with Williams and Lopez (who have them 20 points a game last season, Lopez is a borderline All-Star) the Nets might not have made he playoffs. Now they are certainly headed for the lottery.

What if Williams isn’t coming back, do the Nets need to trade him? Do they need to just give up on trading for a star and rebuild through the draft? Can the sell that to Brooklyn?

If Howard and Williams become free agents next summer, Mark Cuban and the Mavericks will be sitting right there with a lot of cap space.

Lots of questions. The only thing we know is that with Lopez injured the Nets will not like whatever answers the find.