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Report: Four-team Howard deal close… unless it is not


The Dwight Howard Tilt-A-Whirl started spinning again today and we all just want to get off.

According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard a complex four-team deal to ship Dwight Howard to the Lakers is “close.”

A four-team trade that would send Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles Lakers is “very close” to happening and could be agreed upon Friday, league sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Chris Broussard.

The teams involved include Lakers, Magic, Nuggets and 76ers. There are a lot of scenarios flying around out there, but the primary framework of the deal has Howard and Al Harrington going to the Lakers; Pau Gasol and Arron Afflalo end up in Orlando; Andre Iguodala lands with the Nuggets; and Andrew Bynum becomes a member of the 76ers.

Except that ESPN’s Ric Bucher is reporting that Pau Gasol is not part of the deal being discussed. Which is to say there are a lot of scenarios being discussed, and that’s not a sign that things are imminent.

There are plenty of other signs that this deal is not that close. Among those are reports that as of a few hours a go the agents for Bynum and Horford had not been contacted. In the case of Bynum, who would be an unrestricted free agent after next season, you can bet there will be some feeling out to see if he would sign on to stay past the end of his deal in whatever city he was shipped to.

Still, things seem to be discussions and things moving forward a little.

Of course, we’ve been here before — remember that three-team deal with the Cavaliers and Lakers that was close? Exactly.

Another reason to take these reports with a grain of salt — the Magic are not feeling pressured to make a deal just to get it done. Here is what Magic CEO Alex Martins told Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated on Tuesday. You tell me if he sounds like a guy who is impatient.

“We have very specific goals as to what we would hope to achieve if we were to trade Dwight, OK?” said Martins…. “We acknowledge and are realistic about the fact that you’re never going to get equal value in return for Dwight Howard. But if we were to trade him, we have three primary goals that we’re trying to achieve and in the end, any deal that’s proposed to us I think we’ve been very clear about the fact about the goals of what we’re trying to achieve.

“We have never delineated from that. Some may think that we have, but we have not. Clearly, when we find the right combination of pieces that we’re looking for in return, that will determine whether we make a deal or not.”

Does this deal really sound like they are getting everything they want? Pau Gasol (who would be flipped in another trade probably near the deadline) and Arron Afflalo, plus some picks and parts?

We can have a discussion of whether or not they can really reach all their goals — teams are not making huge offers now and James Dolan isn’t coming in to boost the offer at the last minute. You can argue that the deals are not going to get better for Orlando. Sure, they would love young players and picks and to get rid of Jason Richardson and Hedo Turkoglu, but asking for all of it may be too much.

There is a real deadline out there, but it is not until the trade deadline in February. It’s not that soon.

Orlando’s management really care how sick of the Tilt-A-Whirl you are, they are going to keep the ride going until they get what they want and choose to get off. On their terms.

That may or may not happen in the next few days.

Report: Magic decide to trade Howard if he doesn’t commit

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Maybe Orlando Magic owner Rich DeVos is realizing what everyone else has understood for a while — that no matter what he said, Dwight Howard was out of there this summer. And the Magic don’t want to come up empty handed when that happens.

Orlando wants Howard to, at the very least, opt in for next season (if not sign a multi-year extension), or the team has decided will trade him, reports Chris Broussard at ESPN.com.

Convinced that Howard, on the advice of his agent, is trying to manipulate the situation, the Magic are telling teams they will trade Howard before Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET deadline if he does not commit to them beyond this season, league sources said.

“Dwight’s dreaming if he thinks Orlando won’t trade him without a commitment,” a source said. “He needs to make some small commitment to them. They’re saying it can’t be one way….”

Upset and ready to move Howard unless he changes his stance, the Magic have essentially told other teams — most notably the Nets and the Los Angeles Lakers — to let the bidding begin.

It’s one thing to hear it from sources, but until I hear it reliably from DeVos and people around him I don’t totally believe it. He is the guy making the call, not sources, and he’s been hesitant. GM Otis Smith has never stopped looking at deals, but DeVos has been hesitant and ultimately it is his call.

Howard asked the Magic to “roll the dice” with him because he wants to finish the season with a Magic team that beat the Heat on Tuesday night. But if one were cynical — and we are — you could say that is Howard and his agent trying to make sure his eventual landing place still has plenty of roll players and assets that can help them compete. So, sort of the anti-Knicks. (The Knicks might be in the talks, but Broussard says the Magic want Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler in a deal, which is a steep price.)

Keeping Howard this season is a lot to bet on a roll of the dice. Sounds like DeVos may be leaning against gambling.

Magic officials “disgusted” by Howard as they talk to Lakers, Knicks

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The Orlando Magic ownership — and that is who ultimately makes this call — is still deciding what to do.

Dwight Howard wants the Orlando Magic to “roll the dice” on him and keep him through the end of the season. It’s all about winning, he said. Don’t think this is about keeping his options open and making sure if he does leave via free agency this summer the franchise where he lands will not have gutted itself of good players to get him. Nope, not about that at all. It’s all about the winning.

Magic officials are still looking at their options — and talking trade — but Howard’s rant frustrated them, reports Ken Berger at CBSSports.com.

After Howard and Magic executives had promised each other to keep their conversations private, some team executives were privately disgusted with his public comments Tuesday night.

As Tom Ziller notes at SBN, those same “disgusted” officials would pretty much do anything — disgusting or otherwise — to get him to stay.

The Magic are still fielding offers for Howard in the event owner Rich DeVos decides he wants to trade Howard. That includes even talking to the Knicks, reports Sam Amick at Sports Illustrated. Which has to be exactly the kind of focused, professional franchise Howard always dreamed of playing for.

Sources say the Lakers and even the Knicks are among the teams who have engaged with the Magic in recent days. Howard has told close friends that he doesn’t want to play for the Lakers, but deals have been discussed between the two teams with the shared hope that he would change his stance.

While Golden State’s trade for Milwaukee center Andrew Bogut on Tuesday night took them out of the running for Howard in what would have been a “rental” situation, Houston remains willing to trade for Howard without any assurances that he will re-sign.

All the trade offers and whatever Howard himself says at this point is pure window dressings. The only thing that matters now is the call DeVos makes — he will make the decision on trading or keeping Howard. The ball is in his court.

Dwight Howard update: Magic want to talk to Lakers, Howard wants Nets

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There are two sides to where things stand with Dwight Howard less than 48 hours before the NBA trade deadline.

One is what the Magic are doing and thinking. The other is what Howard wants.

What the Magic are doing is having GM Otis Smith keep fielding offers and look for deals while ownership decides if it really wants to trade Howard. Right now every credible report out of Orlando says the same thing — owner Rich DeVos does not intend to trade Howard. But if he does (or if Smith can convince him) the options will be there.

To find a good deal Smith is trying to re-engage the Los Angeles Lakers in talks, reports Sean Deveney with The Sporting News.

One thing the Magic are holding out for, a source told Sporting News, is the resurrection of talks with the Los Angeles Lakers. As the process has played out, it has become clear that the Magic are not going to get a better player in return for Howard than All-Star Lakers center Andrew Bynum. Back in December, the Lakers had strong interest in Howard, but team VP Jim Buss said there was no way he would trade both Pau Gasol and Bynum to the Magic for Howard. Given Bynum’s injury history, a deal in which Bynum was the main target was a longshot.

Would the Lakers still do a deal centered around Bynum for Howard? They’d be fools not to. Well, providing they don’t have to take on Hedo Turkoglu’s deal or some other anchor. But if Orlando calls the Lakers should be talking to them.

Howard for his part still doesn’t want to land in Los Angeles — he doesn’t want to be seen as following Shaquille O’Neal’s pattern — he still wants to land in Brooklyn. Ideally by free agency. So reports Adrian Wojnarowski at Yahoo.

For everything Dwight Howard has told the Orlando Magic management about bringing him a stronger supporting cast, about the possibility that he could still sign an extension, it has turned into a complete ruse – a misdirection play on his eventual signing with the Brooklyn-bound New Jersey Nets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports….

“Dwight’s gone, and [Magic CEO] Alex Martins is the only person who doesn’t believe that,” a league source with knowledge of Howard’s intentions told Yahoo! Sports….

Said another official, who has been involved in deal talks with Orlando, New Jersey and the agents in the process: “Dwight is going to [expletive] them, and that will be especially true if he doesn’t even ask for the sign-and-trade on July 1, because he wants Brooklyn to keep assets.”

That last part is the real key — Howard saw what happened with the Knicks when owner James Dolan jumped in to really up the offer for Carmelo Anthony and gave up all the quality role players on that team. How do the Knicks look now?

With Brook Lopez, Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks and some picks to go with Howard and Deron Williams the Nets are much closer to competing with the Bulls and Heat at the top of the East. This is less about the extra money for Howard now and more about the legacy — he needs rings. Whether they come in Brooklyn or Orlando or Los Angeles doesn’t really matter as being able to retire saying he won a title. Moving on as a free agent gets him closer to his goal than any other option.

Magic GM says 6 to 8 teams pushing for Dwight Howard

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Apparently there are a number of teams in the “rent-a-Howard” market.

The latest news on the Dwight Howard trade front is that while teams are lining up for a shot to get him even if it is for just the rest of this season, right now there is no movement.

We cannot emphasize this enough — the Orlando Magic’s primary goal is to keep Dwight Howard in Orlando. Magic CEO Alex Martins is doing everything short of begging (actually, he’d probably do that, too) to convince Howard to stay. That stems from a real desire to keep him and to show Magic fans that they did try if Howard is traded. Bottom line: Until word comes down from owner Richard DeVos to move Howard — something he is reluctant to do — nothing is going to happen.

But the Magic front office has not been idle on the Howard front, GM Otis Smith told the Orlando Sentinel.

“I’d say everybody in the league has called us. …but this late, it’s six to eight,” Smith said before the Magic faced the Toronto Raptors on Monday night.

Smith said there was “nothing new to report” about Howard’s situation….

“We still have a ways to go. It’s early,” he said. “Usually nothing gets done until the 15th.”

Two thoughts from that. One, “nothing new to report” means Howard’s demand that he be traded to either New Jersey, Los Angeles or Dallas stands. The begging has yet to change Howard’s mind.

Second, there are teams willing to rent Howard for this season. Of the teams on his list, Dallas is not going to trade for him; their goal is to get him this summer via free agency (and Deron Williams, too). The Lakers are certainly involved and likely are still offering Andrew Bynum and parts, but reports are both Howard and the Magic have cooled on that plan. That leaves the Brook Lopez-centered offer from the Nets (which will not be impacted by his sprained ankle).

Afte that, there are teams willing to trade for Howard knowing full well he may opt out this summer and they would lose him. Golden State is one team reportedly in that mix, but there are clearly at least four others.

I don’t expect the Howard thing to start moving until next week, but when it does — and if the owner agrees to move him — it will happen fast.