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After deliberation, lockout negotiators decide not to bring back federal mediator George Cohen


UPDATE (7:24 PM): Per Howard Beck of the New York Times, George Cohen will not be coming back to the collective bargaining sessions after all. Plus, there remains no scheduled time or date for the resumption of talks. Delightful news all around.

2:18 PM: The negotiations to end the NBA lockout are not ongoing — in fact, at present, anything but going. Representatives of the league and the NBPA aren’t camped out in a room for marathon sessions, nor are such sessions even planned. Everything is quiet, and yet the revenue split between the two parties hangs in the air. The 2.5 percentage points of basketball-related income (BRI) that separate the NBA and the union nudge actual basketball just out of reach, and for the moment there aren’t even discussions on how best to deal with that gap.

Yet the leadership on both sides of the negotiations know that more talks are the only way to produce an agreement, even if there’s currently a bit of a stalemate. More meetings are an inevitability; we may not know precisely when the gang will get back together again, but we can say with confidence that they will.

And this time around, they may have another appearance from a recurring guest. According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, George Cohen, the federal mediator who guided talks between the NBA and NBPA two weeks ago, may be brought back to facilitate further negotiations. Considering how quickly previous discussions seemed to implode once the subject of BRI was breached, I’d say some mediation — of the federal, or just about any other variety — is precisely what these negotiations need. Both sides have claimed a hard line, but waiting for the other party to break isn’t a negotiation at all. The NBA and NBPA obviously want a deal that’s financially sound from their perspective, but one has to believe that there is some middle ground that can be reached without one side or another “winning” the lockout negotiation outright by way of the other finally breaking.

Cohen isn’t likely to arrive to any negotiation with that solution in his pocket, but he could bring a new tone to a negotiation process that failed to capitalize on last week’s incredible momentum.

Reports: Lockout talks break down over BRI split

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According to multiple sources, the lockout talks between the player’s union and the owners have hit an impasse over the BRI split. The players want 52%, the owners want to give them 50%, and neither side is budging.

Talks for the day are reportedly over, and according to ESPN’s Brian Windhorst, no future talks have been scheduled yet.

Reports from multiple sources say more games will be cancelled today (or in the next 24 hours).

The issue was more than just BRI, the two sides got stuck on the final details of the system issues as well.

If you want to see basketball soon, there’s no good way to spin this — each side wants what it wants, and each side is willing to sacrifice games in order to try to get it. After a brief window of hope, things are looking grim once again.

Derrick Rose says it’s Stern’s fault, yada yada… wait, who’s in charge of the union?

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This is the paragraph I’m supposed to blockquote you and pull the news story off of. Guess what? A member of the player’s union thinks David Stern and the owners are mean and it’s their fault for the lockout! TOTALLY NEW INFORMATION.

“It’s sad. It’s very sad. But everybody knows it’s not our fault. It’s definitely not our fault. If it was up to us, we’ll be out there playing,” the reigning league MVP said Saturday at the State Street Foot Locker in the Loop. I think that it’s wrong. I know that they can easily take care of it and not take advantage of people, but I guess that’s how people are.

“There’s not too much that we can say. They’re not thinking about anything that we’re saying, they’re not taking into consideration anything that we’re trying to give them. We’ll just have to see how it goes.”

via Rose blames owners for NBA lockout.

This is supposed to be provocative, but really, it’s just Rose’s ultra-simplistic view of what the union holds. The owners don’t want a deal, they’re the ones locking the players out, #letusplay and all that jazz. So yeah, Derrick Rose spoke out against the league, which is of note since Rose has been pretty quiet.

But here’s the excerpt that should actually catch your eye from our friends at CSN Chicago (emphasis mine):

While fans shouldn’t anticipate Rose sitting in on labor negotiations, the perception that the shy kid with the loud game won’t speak up isn’t quite so accurate these days.

“I’ve been so busy, where I haven’t had time to go into the news or anything like that, but my agents, Arn [Tellem] and B.J. [Armstrong] have been doing a great job with keeping me up with the updates and I’m supposed to be talking to ‘D-Fish’ in a couple days or Paul Pierce,” said Rose.

via Rose blames owners for NBA lockout.



Okay, so some background on Pierce. He’s not just one of the guys who blew apart the 50/50 proposal last weekend alongside Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant.  He’s prominently involved in the union, has been present at more meetings than any of the other superstars, and Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reported that Pierce has considered a formal presence in the union:

In addition, the Celtics’ Paul Pierce — who was among the stars present Friday and who stuck around for Saturday’s and Monday’s sessions — will take on a prominent role in the negotiations again on Tuesday. Though Pierce has previously expressed interest in being involved in the union — perhaps even as a committee member and vice president — his presence is notable for more than his star power. Pierce’s agent, Jeff Schwartz, is one of seven powerful reps who wrote a pointed letter to their clients urging them not to agree to any further reductions in their share of basketball-related income (BRI) or any further restrictions to the system beyond what the union has negotiated.

via A moment of truth arrives in NBA talks – CBSSports.com.

So I’m not saying it’s random that Rose would want to touch base with him. Pierce does know what’s going on. He’s in the room.

But consider that Pierce’s agent sides with those who reportedly want to at least question if not undercut Billy Hunter and Derek Fisher’s approach. So does Rose’s agent, Arn Tellem. And you’re telling me Derrick Rose, the MVP of the league, can’t get Derek Fisher on the phone to tell him what’s going on? He’s going to Pierce?

I’m not trying to blow anything out of proportion here, though I can readily admit that’s what it looks like. But it seems exceptionally weird that the MVP is checking with someone who’s not a member of the executive committee who recently took things into his own hands along with Garnett and Bryant and blew up the talks, at least in cooperation with the owners’ intransigence. It sounds a lot like there are too many cooks in the players’ kitchen.

You need one voice. One expert. One law. Right now, there’s confusion and unrest coming out of the union. Maybe that’s just a flawed perception from the media. But the perception is still there.

If we get a season, not all the canceled games are gone forever

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There’s a whole lot of confusion over the first two weeks of the season that have been canceled. The league doesn’t know how many games will be canceled, so it can’t make any announcements on the status of the games that have already been canceled. The assumption is that the games that were lost are gone forever. But that’s probably not the case. From the New York Post:

The Post has reported that over the last two months NBA schedulemaker Matt Winnick has designed a handful of contingency schedules including 74-game, 70-game, 60-game and 50-game schedules, based on arena availability. Many of those schedules looking nothing like the original 82-game version.

“It’s not like the preseason where you just lop off games and pick it up,” one source said.

In fact, even though the Knicks have lost their home opener vs. Miami on Nov. 2, there is still a good chance they play Miami all four times in the unlikely event that the lockout settles soon. The games lost mostly will be interconference games, according to two sources.

via NBA web schedules off the mark.

Makes sense, right? You can’t just pick up the season mid-way through and have some teams playing significantly more division games than their division rivals. You have to find balance in those. The same home and away splits will be maintained because trying to squeeze in games in an arena’s schedule that’s filled out with concerts and rodeos and circus clowns and what not is a logistical nightmare.

So those great opening night games may not be gone forever, nor some of those key matchups in the first two weeks. All we have to do is get a season.

We’re so screwed.

Udonis Haslem gets cleared to play basketball, would like to play NBA basketball soon

Miami Heat's Udonis Haslem celebrates a basket against the Chicago Bulls during Game 2 of their NBA Eastern Conference Finals playoff basketball game in Chicago
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Udonis Haslem’s twitter account is less than 24 years old, but he’s already using it to post major news and his opinions about the lockout:

How ironic. Just got cleared by doctors for full workouts. Hardwood here I come. LET US PLAY #STANDUNITED

A foot injury caused Haslem to miss most of the regular season and the playoffs, but he was able to come back and give the Heat some very good minutes in the Conference Finals as well as the NBA Finals. Still, his foot wasn’t 100% healthy, and he’s spent most of the off-season continuing to rehab it. It looks like he’s finally healthy, but of course, it won’t really matter until a CBA deal gets done.