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Great Argentina team loses final match against Team USA by 26 points, U.S. to play for gold Sunday


Let’s take a moment and applaud this Argentina team. Lead by Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, and Andres Nocioni (no, really), this Argentina has battled for one another for a decade. They have been the biggest thorn in the side of the U.S. in international play, and were what prompted widespread changes in the U.S. approach to world championship play. They fought as hard as they could on Friday, hanging around with the U.S. for two and a half quarters. They played with heart, they played with intensity, and they played with the identity of their leader, Manu Ginobili. Smart, gritty, and beautiful.

Then they lost by 26 points, 109-83, because Team USA is much better.

There has been talk from some on this Argentina team that the U.S. wasn’t really all that invincible, that they were in this, and that maybe this team wasn’t that good. One player said after their last meeting that the U.S. had only won because the officials hadn’t called traveling correctly.

The spread for Friday’s game was 25.5 points. The U.S. cleared it, but it was a battle to the wire. To cover the 25.5. spread.

It was more of the same of what we’d seen from this Team USA. When they needed an answer, LeBron James would provide it, be it a nifty pass to an open shooter, or a tough finish at the rim. From there, it was only a matter of time before the three-point shots began to fall, and when the cold spell ended, Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant and Carmelo Anthony took care of the rest. It was a barrage, and it blew open a close game.

Argentina hung in there because of some tough, and I mean tough, shots from Carlos Delfino, who simply could not miss for a stretch, no matter how contested the threes were. American ball is supposed to be the isolation-contested-jumper offense, but Argentina used that same model to stay in the game. Ginobili of course was the other huge factor, hitting floaters and slicing through all defenders. When the defense collapsed, he found Scola. But it wasn’t enough. The talent just wasn’t there, and Team USA’s pressure defense rattled Argentina just enough to facilitate the collapse.

So Team USA will face the team everyone expected them to face in the gold medal match Sunday, Spain, who toppled Russia earlier. They’ll face the biggest interior team yet with the Gasol brothers down low, and Juan Carlos Navarro to hit from the perimeter. But even with the holes on this particular roster due to injury, you have to expect the U.S. to win. They’ve been dispatching great teams throughout this tournament, and every time it looks like they might be challenged, they turn on the jets and leave their opponents faces scorched from the engines.

Argentina faces Russia in what will be the last Olympics match for this core. There are concerns about the future of the program for Argentina. But they’ll go down swinging, no matter what the final margin is.

Kevin Durant lead all scorers with 19 in the win.

USA’s path to gold could feature rematch from 1972. Or 2008.

US forward Carmelo Anthony (L)  and US f

We have reached the medal round and if you look at the way the USA played the last two quarters against Argentina — pressure defense where they did not gamble, then LeBron James and Kevin Durant scoring — nobody can stop them. We’re just going to pretend the first two quarters didn’t happen.

So what does the USA’s path to a gold medal look like? It starts out smooth but can get bumpy. Probably not bumpy enough to stop them, but bumpy.

First: Australia. If the USA we saw in the second half against Argentina shows up with its smothering defense, this will be a rout. Australia is led by Patty Mills, the feisty former St. Mary’s point guard who played in China during the lockout then hooked up with the Spurs after that and he played very well for them (PER of 21.5). He’s averaging 20.2 points per game these Olympics. It’s a good story. But if you think the Spurs second string point guard is going to lead a team that beats this Team USA you probably thought “In Time” was a good movie.

Second Round: Brazil or Argentina. The USA has already beaten the Argentines twice — by 6 in a tune-up game and then by 29 on Monday when their overwhelmed Argentina in the second half. When Argentina is able to grind the game down they are a threat to the USA, and Manu Ginobili may be the best single player so far in these Olympics, but there is no reason to doubt that the runs that the USA made in both meetings so far would not happen again. The USA playing its best is just too much.

The USA also easily dispatched Brazil in an Olympic tune-up, but on paper they look like a team that could give the USA trouble. First, they have size up front with Nene, Tiago Splitter and Anderson Varejao — the USA would struggle to match that. Especially since Tyson Chandler is a foul sponge for the USA, just soaking them up then having to sit. Brazil also has a savvy veteran point guard in Marcelinho Huertas and Leandro Barbosa’s three-point explosion lifted them over Spain. But again this is a team that could not keep up with the runs Team USA makes and doesn’t have the firepower to come back after the inevitable spurts by the Americans. If the USA lost to Brazil it would be because of how they came out, now how Brazil played.

Gold Medal Game: Russia or Spain. First off, I applogize to France and Lithuania but they are not making it this far. France maybe could swing a bronze.

The 2008 silver medalists Spain could, they put themselves on this half of the bracket by losing to Brazil on Monday. We’ve covered Spain before because they should be the second best team in London — they have Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol up front, they have good point guards in Jose Calderon and Juan Carlos Navarro, they have shooters like Rudy Fernandez. They should be a team that could push the USA. But they haven’t played like it at all. They were 3-2 in group play (although both losses were close) and the USA handled them easily in a tune-up in Barcelona. Spain can be a side that should be able to threaten Team USA in a one-game playoff, but they need to play a little better at both ends to really do that.

Russia would be an interesting matchup, a rematch of the controversial 1972 Olympics finals on the 40th anniversary of that game. First, the Russians are getting great play from two future Timberwolves: Andrei Kirilenko has averaged 18.2 points per game and played fantastic pressure defense on opposing bigs; Alexey Shved has averaged 12 points and 5.4 assists per game while really controlling the tempo and flow. Two other interesting notes from the ESPN Stats Department — Russia is holding opposing teams to 27 percent shooting from three and has been the best transition defense team in the games. Those are the two areas Team USA uses to get easy buckets.

Russia may be the Americans new biggest threat — defend the three, take away easy transition buckets, have Kirilenko control the paint and Shved controlling the tempo. Like Spain, if this were a seven game series there would be no doubt the USA would win. But it’s not. It’s the NCAA tournament — one and done. Lose and go home. And for one day Russia could put it all together and threaten the USA.

At least until LeBron James and Kevin Durant took over.

Team USA starts real tests with Argentina on Sunday


Every NFL fan knows you can’t predict what the New Orleans Saints season will be like based on their Aug. 5 Hall of Fame game performance (vs. the Cardinals). Along the same line, it’s hard to infer what will happen when the games matter by watching Team USA’s pre-Olympics tune-ups.

We’re left making projections based more on style points than competitive games. What we’ve learned for sure is Team USA can destroy weaker sides like the Dominican Republic. And we learned that when the Americans miss a lot of shots against at team with size someone like Brazil can hang around for a while.

None of which tells us much. The reality is there are only a few teams with real medal chances in London besides the United States and in the next few days they will play two of them.

These are the games that will give us a better idea of what is to come.

Sunday (3:30 ET on NBA TV) it is Argentina — a team that boasts Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, Carlos Delfino and a core from that country’s “golden age” of basketball that know how to play the international game. This is a group that has fared well in international competitions for years and is a tough out. (Tuesday Team USA will face off against the second best team in the tournament, Spain.)

This game will be cloaked Dream Team talk — it is being played in Barcelona, where the ’92 team won its gold. It is the 20th anniversary of the Dream Team team and there was some controversy when Kobe Bryant said this Team USA could beat that side and Michael Jordan laughed at it. Sunday Team USA will be wearing Dream Team throwback uniforms.

But the USA doesn’t have to play the Dream Team, that’s a legacy debate, a barstool discussion. One you can’t even really have properly before the Olympics.

Argentina is real and pretty good. They can defend and score. The USA is better (Team USA is a 28 point favorite). But can the USA use its pressure defense to get easy buckets in transition against a more experienced team? Can the USA execute in the half court? How will their defense fare against a side that does execute and moves very well off the ball (plus can shoot)? Can LeBron James play the four against Scola? Is Kevin Durant going to keep lighting it up? Is Deron Williams going to keep up his amazing level of play against stiffer competition?

The USA and Argentina will play in London, they are in the same first-round group. This is just a warm-up. But both sides will be trying to send a message.

And we’ll be left trying to make inferences from the style points.

Ginobili suffers mild ankle sprain in pick-up game

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In the off chance that David Stern and Billy Hunter stop acting like fools next week, this could be relevant. But it probably won’t matter.

Manu Ginobili has suffered a mild ankle sprain while training in Argentina, reports the News-Express Spurs Blog (and Project Spurs).

The injury, which is not considered serious, apparently occurred when Ginobili landed awkwardly on his ankle after attempting a 3-point shot.

What happened, did Bruce Bowen step under him when he landed?

Ginobili is Argentinian and led is country to a FIBA Americas championship and Olympic berth this summer, and since has remained in the country.

If this really is minor, it should be no big deal since we are more than a month away from NBA action, at best. That is plenty of time to heal. But it has to be a concern in this way — San Antonio won 61 games last season because their key guys stayed healthy for the most part. Their only chance at one more run is for everyone to be healthy again, this is a team with no margin for error (and even that may well not be enough).

But for now, this injury doesn’t really matter.

Brazil, Argentina punch their tickets to London Olympics

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Coming in to the FIBA Americas tournament, anything less than making the championship game — and with that earning a berth in next summer’s Olympics — would have been a let down for Argentina. They were the best team in the tournament on paper with a lineup that included Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola, Carlos Delfino and Andreas Nocioni.

Brazil had a harder road. Their best players — Nene, Anderson Varejao and Leandro Barbosa — all declined to play. It was Tiago Splitter and a bunch of guys you don’t know.

It didn’t really work out exactly that way, Brazil was the best team in the tournament and Argentina looked vulnerable. But in the end those are the two teams that earned the automatic berths by making the finals of FIBA Americas with wins on Saturday.

Brazil did it by being the top seed and beating the Dominican Republic 83-76 in the semi finals. Argentina had a harder road, relying on a couple of late free throws (and some Puerto Rico missed shots) to get an 81-79 win.

The Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico — along with fifth place finisher Venezuela — will compete in the pre-Olympic qualifying tournament next summer.

The Dominican Republic — coached by Kentucky coach John Calipari — was the only team to beat Brazil in the group stage. They got a solid 18 points out of Atlanta’s Al Horford, but Brazil was too balanced with great guard play from Marcelinho Huertas and Marcelo Machado.

Argentina and Puerto Rico were tied at 79-79 but while Argentina was able to get to the free throw line (Ginobili had the winning point from the stripe) Puerto Rico had two missed shots from Carlos Arroyo and one by J.J. Barea in the clutch and fell short.

Teams now qualified for the London Olympics are the United States, Tunisia, Australia, Argentina, Brazil and host Great Britain. Two European teams will join that list next week.