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Kyrie Irving doubles down, says he’s serious about believing Earth is flat


The Earth is flat,” Kyrie Irving said. Then he repeated himself. “The Earth is flat.” And again. “The Earth is flat.”

But those words came on a mostly lighthearted podcast with Cavaliers teammates Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye.

Irving doesn’t really believe that, does he?

“Yeah, I do,” Irving said.

“No, I don’t believe the Earth is round.”

But how?

“I think about it from just a, not even a scientific way, but the way I travel and how I get around and also the tons and tons of research that supports that theory,” Irving said. “I think you should go look it up. Before I tell you, I think you should go look it up.”

Irving unintentionally hit on one common response his claim. Many say he should know better because, thanks to his basketball talent, he has travelled around the world.

“You’re saying ‘around,'” Irving said.

Irving initially hesitated to discuss his flat-Earth beliefs, but he got a kick out of hearing about the public fascination with his stance.

“That’s a big deal, huh?” Irving said. “That’s a big deal?”

Yup. Our post on it is the most-read of today’s ProBasketballTalk stories.

“It’s funny,” Irving said. “It’s hilarious.”

Irving spoke at an All-Star Weekend appearance for Mountain Dew, a company that might be especially aligned to oddball takes.

“I’m here just to bring the lifestyle, which is being who you are,” Irving said.

Even if you’re somebody with far-out ideas about the Earth’s shape.

I thanked Irving for his time and got up. But before I hit the door, he called out.

“I’m telling you, go research it,” Irving said. “I’m telling you, you’ll have fun with it. I promise you that.”

“I’m sure it’s fun,” I replied. “I just don’t think it’s real.”

“That’s what I’m saying,” Irving said.

World Team’s Nikola Jokic on playing U.S. Team in Rising Stars Challenge: ‘We’re going to kick their ass’

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Nuggets center Nikola Jokic is wise beyond his years as a basketball player.

So maybe he knows what he’s talking about for tonight’s Rising Stars Challenge, when his World Team will face the U.S. Team.


We’re going to kick their ass.

This bulletin-board material will surely motivate the Americans to play lockdown defense, compete for every rebound and dive for every loose ball once again coast through an exhibition that makes the All-Star game look serious.

Kyrie Irving: ‘The Earth is flat’

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Prepare to match David Lee‘s expression in the above photo.

Kyrie Irving on the Road Trippin’ with RJ & Channing podcast:

This is not even a conspiracy.

The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat. The Earth is flat.

All these things that particular groups — I won’t even pinpoint one group — that they almost offer up this education. The fact that, in our lifetimes, that there are so many holes in so many pockets in our history.

There is this history. I don’t want to dictate it to one race, dictate it to any one particular type of people or anything like that. History is history, and it’s happened long before us, and it’s going to happen after us. And it always repeats itself somehow, in some way. All these things that they keep giving to us.

I’m just saying that these things that ultimately used to  put me in fear, and this thing used to be like, “Aw, man.” It makes you not want to question it, naturally. Because of how much information you can actually figure out and how much information there actually is out there. It’s crazy. Anything that you have a particular question on — OK, is the world flat? Is the Earth flat or round? I think you need to do research on it.

It’s right in front of our faces. I’m telling you, it’s right in front of our faces. They lie to us.

For what I’ve known for as many years and what I’ve come to believe, what I’ve been taught is that the Earth is round. But I mean, if you really think about it from a landscape of the way we travel, the way we move, and the fact that, can you really think of us rotating around the sun and all planets aligned rotating in specific dates being perpendicular with what’s going on with these planets?

Everything that they send or they want to say they’re sending doesn’t come back. It doesn’t come back. There is no concrete information except for the information that they’re giving us. They’re particularly putting you in the direction of what to believe and what not to believe. And the truth is right there. You’ve just go to go searching for it. I’ve been searching for it for a while.

It’s the journey of finding it. It’s almost expanding.

I can go on about all the questions I have, but what it really came down to for me was, everything that was particularly thrown in front of me, I had to just be like, OK, look, this is all a facade. This is all something that they ultimately want me to believe in, that is true whether or not or whatever. But now, there is a certain aspect of life in which I want to tell people about, which is this true journey of really becoming a complete individual and total freedom of thought. Do you know what I’m saying?


Report: Pistons discuss trading Reggie Jackson to Magic for D.J. Augustin, Jeff Green

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Pistons president/coach Stan Van Gundy told Reggie Jackson, “We’re not trading you for Ricky Rubio.”

How about for D.J. Augustin and Jeff Green?

Marc Stein of ESPN:

There have to be other pieces involved because the salaries don’t come close enough to matching. But Detroit would have to send more, which is problematic given the other complication:

This would be a terrible trade for the Pistons.

Jackson is younger and more talented than Augustin. Green is a mediocre player who would add marginal value in Detroit, which already has Tobias Harris and Marcus Morris as combo forwards and Jon Leuer as a power forward.

But Van Gundy would be comfortable with Augustin, who previously played for the Pistons. Given that, Augustin might even provide a short-term boost considering Jackson’s struggles since returning from major injury. So, perhaps there’s a deal to be made around these players.

Still, I’d be shocked if, should this trade ever comes to fruition, it doesn’t involve the Magic sending Detroit much more value.

Joel Embiid says he considered retirement during lost seasons

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Joel Embiid‘s struggles while missing his first two NBA seasons due to injury have been well-chronicled. In that time, he also dealt with his brother dying.

Embiid, via ESPN Radio:

I was such in a dark place. I wanted to quit basketball. I just wanted to go back home and just leave everything behind.

That was right after my second surgery. I just couldn’t do it anymore. I just wanted to, like, quit.

Thankfully — for both him and us — Embiid stuck it out.

Considering it took him so long to get on the court, we never would have known what we’d be missing if he retired early. But now we know.

Embiid is one of the NBA’s top young players and has almost singlehandedly made the 76ers fun to watch. He plays with such an outward enthusiasm, he can’t help but rally teammates and fans around him.