Phoenix Suns v Golden State Warriors

Andre Iguodala out at least a week and a half, Andrew Bogut one game


Andre Iguodala has helped turn the Golden State Warriors from a dangerous lower seed into a legitimate championship contender.

At 42-26, the Warriors are at least on pace for their best record since 1992. Their defense has reached unprecedented levels in Oakland, and their offense is full of talent.

Iguodala is central to both sides of the court for Golden State, so this is a pretty concerning setback.

The Warriors can probably survive their next two games, vs. Orlando tonight and vs. Milwaukee on Thursday, without Iguodala. The third game, vs. San Antonio, will be much more challenging.

They’re just a different team when Iguodala plays.

Iguodala on:

  • Offensive rating: 109.4
  • Defensive rating: 96.2
  • Net rating: +13.1

Iguodala off:

  • Offensive rating: 98.4
  • Defensive rating: 103.6
  • Net rating: -5.2

Part of the discrepancy is due to Iguodala playing so much – 55 percent of his minutes – with Golden State’s other starters (Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Davie Lee and Andrew Bogut). That lineup has been the most productive of the NBA’s 38 most-used lineups.

  • Offensive rating: 112.2
  • Defensive rating: 97.1
  • Net rating: +15.2

Harrison Barnes will replace Iguodala in the starting lineup, and despite his powerful name recognition and remaining potential, Barnes just isn’t having a strong year. That shows in his lack of chemistry when playing with Curry, Thompson, Lee and Bogut. With Barnes replacing Iguodala, that lineup is considerably worse on both sides of the ball:

  • Offensive rating: 97.1
  • Defensive rating: 104.5
  • Net rating: -7.3

At least Golden State has five days off following this three-game stretch. That could give Iguodala a chance to heal.

If only the Warriors’ problems ended there, though.

Andrew Bogut is also out against the Magic tonight.

When Iguodala and Bogut, the Warriors’ top two defenders, are off the court, they allow 106.8 points per 100 possessions, according to nbawowy. For reference, that falls to 102.0 for Golden State overall this season and 98.8 when both play.

Fortunately for the Warriors, the anemic Magic offense probably can’t take advantage (even if Orlando has won six of seven at Golden State).

If this is just the Warriors being precautious during a long season, that makes sense. They’re 3.5 games behind Houston for homecourt advantage in the first round of the playoffs and 3.5 games ahead of Phoenix for the final postseason spot. This is the right time to rest players, especially considering the lengthy break after the Spurs game would give Iguodala a long stretch to recharge his batteries.

But if these injuries, especially the more-serious-sounding Iguodala’s, are more significant, they could pose major setbacks for Golden State’s title aspirations.

Derrick Rose being back for start of season in question

Fred Hoiberg, Derrick Rose
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The Bulls have said Derrick Rose is about a week away from returning after suffering a facial fracture this preseason.

The start of the NBA season is two weeks from today (Oct. 27).

So Rose will be ready to go when the Bulls start their season that first night against Cleveland, right? Don’t bet on it, says Vincent Goodwill of, quoting coach Fred Hoiberg.

The opening night projection for a Derrick Rose return is a bit murky at this point, as the Bulls are taking a cautious approach to his recovery with Fred Hoiberg essentially ruling him out for the rest of the preseason.

“Most likely (out for the preseason),” Hoiberg said….

In fact, it wouldn’t be surprising to see Rose sit out the first handful of games, as the Bulls start the season with a three-game in four-night stretch starting Oct. 27 against the Cleveland Cavaliers, which is in two weeks.

“That will be in consideration, sure,” Hoiberg said. “We gotta make sure, he really hasn’t done anything and that will be a good two or three weeks where he has total inactivity, so just to throw him back out there going 100 percent with his speed and everything, you just don’t want to take any risks, chances, where it could be a lingering issue.”

Just what TNT and the NBA hoped for with an opening night Bulls vs. Cavaliers showcase: Kirk Hinrich vs. Mo Williams. (Don’t forget Kyrie Irving will miss the start of the season recovering from his knee surgery.)

Of course, this is the smart play for the Bulls who need to be thinking about getting Rose fully healthy and focusing on what condition he will be come April 27, not Oct. 27.

And of course, a lot of Bulls fans who are down on Rose will slam him for this. Even though the injury was a freak accident and the team is right to be patient.

Rose could play opening night, if he gets back to practice next week and can get closer to basketball shape. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

Stephen Curry apologizes for Warriors’ health, playoff path, success

Stephen Curry, DeAndre Jordan, Spencer Hawes

Draymond Green wasn’t the only Warrior firing back at perceived critics today.

A sarcastic Stephen Curry joined the fun (and to his credit, did so much more appropriately than his teammate).


I just want to say, I apologize for us being healthy. I apologize for us playing who’s in front of us. I apologize for all the accolades we’ve received as a team and individually. I’m very, truly sorry. We’ll rectify that situation this year.

We try to have fun with it.

What the Warriors refuse to realize: Acknowledging the fortunate breaks they received en route to their championship is not the same as saying they didn’t deserve their championship. It’s not insulting them.

Of course, the Warriors aren’t obligated to fully understand the critiques. They’re incentivized to spin the comments into motivation.

Mission clearly accomplished.