While the idea of former teammates Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol being traded for each other had some “what a quirky coincidence” fun about it, the odds of making a deal really work for both sides always was a tough sell.
Which is why trade talks between the Lakers and Cavaliers have stalled, reports ESPN.
The major issue, sources said, involves the Lakers’ desire to get an additional asset from the Cavs beyond Bynum’s team-friendly contract, which could save the Lakers more than $20 million in salary and luxury taxes. The Lakers are interested in also getting a young prospect or first-round draft pick as part of the deal. The Cavs have been reluctant to part with either.
For the Cavaliers, the logic in getting Gasol is to make a playoff push — Cleveland averages just 36.7 points in the paint per game, third worst in the NBA. Gasol would help change that. (So would Kyrie Irving and Dion Waiters finishing their drives at the rim rather than settling for a pull-up jumper, but that’s another discussion.)
For the Lakers, making this trade then waiving Bynum would be a cash saving move and would be essentially throwing in the towel on this season and conceding they want to be in the lottery — for Lakers management that would be a hard step to take. It might be the right one, but it flies in the tradition of the Lakers and current ownership (post Jerry Buss) is sensitive to the idea this is not a franchise that tanks.
That said the Lakers need to consider this, and if not the Bynum move another salary dump. Sorry, but this season is lost. Simply put, if they make this move and get out of the tax this season and them next season not go over the Lakers could avoid the new “repeater tax” for a few years. This would make it easier and less expensive to be aggressive on free agents the next couple seasons. Plus they would get a lottery player (likely not top 3 but more likely 10-12) to add to that mix.
Still, that is a change from how the Lakers do business. If they are going to take that step they will want something else they can sell fans (and themselves) besides that salary dump.
The Cavaliers think they were close to trading for Paul George, a text message away from completing a three-team trade with the Pacers and Nuggets that would have sent Kevin Love to Denver.
But Cleveland could’ve ensured itself George, whom Indiana ultimately dealt to the Thunder. All the Cavs had to do was send Kyrie Irving to the Pacers.
Brian Windhorst and Zach Lowe of ESPN on The Lowe Post podcast:
- Windhorst: “I know that around the draft and in the Paul George talks, the Cavs were not willing to make Kyrie Irving available for Paul George.”
- Lowe: “We can say on this podcast: The Pacers offered Paul George for Kyrie Irving. That’s a thing that happened, according to people that we’ve talked to.”
- Windhorst: “Multiple times.”
Even if the Cavaliers knew of Irving’s unhappiness – maybe they did, or at least should have – while George was still in Indiana, this would have been a bad trade for them.
Irving is locked up for two more years, and George is on an expiring contract. That simply makes Irving more valuable than George, who – like LeBron James – could have walked in a year. George is ineligible for a reasonable contract extension, and there’s so much buzz about him joining the Lakers.
Now, if the Cavs were more on top of Irving’s trade request when George were still available, maybe they would have more aggressively tried to bridge the gap. Perhaps, Indiana could have sent another player or draft pick.
But Cleveland shouldn’t be kicking itself over not dealing Irving for George straight up.
LeBron James reportedly wants to fight Kyrie Irving over the guard’s trade request.
But sometimes, people continue to work with those whom they dislike. LeBron partnered with Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert again and again, after all.
Might LeBron realize keeping Irving is Cleveland’s best chance to win another title? Could LeBron put personal feelings aside in that pursuit?
Joe Vardon of Cleveland.com:
Irving has asked for a trade and James is eager to see him off.
This might explain why the Cavs appear so gung-ho about moving Irving. LeBron usually gets what he wants in Cleveland, especially in a contract year.
It’s not too late for LeBron and Irving to reconcile until a trade is completed, but with LeBron welcoming Derrick Rose, they just move further from that possibility.
Damian Lillard was making the rounds on a media tour Monday, and at virtually each and every stop he was asked about Kyrie Irving and Carmelo Anthony. We told you about Lillard’s recruiting pitch to Anthony.
One of his stops was with one of my favorite radio shows, Bill Reiter’s Reiter Than You on CBS Radio. Lillard talked about what players owe teammates when they try to push their way out of town.
“You owe your teammates first because those are the guys that you spend the most time around that you have relationships with, more so than anybody else,” Lillard said. “And also the fans because they are part of your team. They’re the people that come and cheer for you and support you as much as anybody. So I think they’re the two groups of people that you owe the truth. They deserve to know the truth in where you stand and what your plans are.”
Hard to argue with that.
Of course, honesty can lead to some bad blood. If Kyrie Irving went to his teammates and the fans in Cleveland and said, “Look, LeBron James is leaving in a year, and I don’t want to be the guy holding the bag, so I’m forcing my way out while I can” how would that go over? It’s the truth — or maybe the largest part of the truth, there is never just one thing — but it would rub a lot of people the wrong way. And Irving would get roasted in the media (more than he is already).
It sounds good to be honest, and a lot of guys try, but they have talked themselves into that narrative before they sell it everywhere else. Everything is spin, to a degree.
By now we have all seen Golden State Warriors shooting guard Klay Thompson brick that dunk attempt in China, right?
Here is the link to the video if you haven’t seen it.
Well, teammate Stephen Curry was also in China this week and decided to do a little mocking of Thompson’s missed dunk for the crowd.
It was all in good fun, and of course we all know about the Warriors team culture. Glad that Curry and Thompson can jab at each other like this.