Young Pacers on verge of history


Larry Bird was the reigning MVP. David Robinson hadn’t yet been drafted. Julius Erving was still an active player.

That’s how long it’s been since a team as young as the 2012-13 Indiana Pacers made the NBA Finals.

Thanks to their 91-77 win over the Miami Heat tonight, the Pacers are only one win from becoming the youngest NBA finalist since the 1985-86 Houston Rockets. The 2010-11 Oklahoma City Thunder are the only younger team between to make even the conference finals.

With a starting lineup that now features Lance Stephenson (22), Paul George (23), Roy Hibbert (26) and George Hill (27), the Pacers have rapidly and steadily ascended up the NBA ladder. They lost 50 games in 2009-10, reached the first round in 2010-11, the second round in 2011-12 and the conference finals – and maybe further – this season.

David West (32) is the old hand of the group, but because he played four years at Xavier, he’s played only as many seasons as LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.

West was signed as a free agent, and the Pacers traded a draft pick to the San Antonio Spurs for Kawhi Leonard. Otherwise, Indiana’s top players have been drafted by the team or acquired via draft-day trades and then developed in-house.

Most remarkably, these players – and Danny Granger, who was a key piece of Indiana’s resurgence before injury – were drafted relatively low.

The Thunder have become recognized as the model for drafting and developing players, but the Pacers deserve a place in the discussion – maybe even ahead of Oklahoma City when it comes to the developing side. Just look where each team’s recent key players were drafted:

  • Pacers: George (No. 10), Hibbert (No. 17), Granger (No. 17) and Stephenson (No. 40)
  • Thunder: Kevin Durant (No. 2), James Harden (No. 3), Russell Westbrook (No. 4) and Serge Ibaka (No. 24)

Developing talent is much easier when you start with a lot more talent.

But despite working with less-herald draft picks, the Pacers have groomed their players to reach levels Oklahoma City’s young stars never have.

George is averaging 21.0 points, 5.8 rebounds and 5.3 assists per game against the Heat. Since 1985 (as far back as’s relevant records go), only LeBron James (twice) and Kobe Bryant (twice) have posted those totals in a Conference Finals or Finals at such a young age.

Hibbert, who’s averaging 22.8 points and 10.8 rebounds per game in this series, is matched during that span in age, scoring and rebounding in the Conference Finals or Finals by just Dwight Howard, Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan (twice) and Shaquille O’Neal.

For both George and Hibbert to be producing at these levels is astounding, but it speaks to how well and how quickly Indiana has developed.

Win or lose Monday, the Pacers have a bright future. But if they win, their present will be historically special.

Rumor: Magic expected to fire Frank Vogel

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Magic president Jeff Weltman inherited an expensive and bad roster, limiting his options to shape it.

He also inherited coach Frank Vogel, and maybe there’s something Weltman will do about that.

Marc Stein of The New York Times in his newsletter:

Orlando’s ongoing malaise, especially after the promise of an unexpected 8-4 start, make it a widely held assumption in coaching circles that Vogel will be dismissed after the franchise’s sixth successive season out of the playoffs.

Perhaps, these people in coaching circles are doing nothing more than connecting dots. Many coaches with poor records – only the Suns and Nets have been worse during Vogel’s two-year tenure – inherited by a new front office get fired.

Or it could be something more concrete, like Orlando putting out feelers for potential replacements. That possibility gives juice to this report.

Vogel has one more guaranteed year left on his contract, according to Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel. Will ownership pay to oust Vogel? That seems likely. The alternative is paying Weltman to sit on his hands.

This would be a tough break for Vogel, who coached well with the Pacers. The Magic’s roster is just so lacking. Vogel hasn’t impressed in Orlando, but his opportunity to do so has been narrow.

At least it’d be more understandable if he got fired by a losing team. Last time, he got fired by a winning team.

Rumor: Bucks, Jabari Parker could part after season

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Jabari Parker is a confounding fit on the Bucks now and in the future.

Could he and Milwaukee part ways this summer, when he’ll be a restricted free agent?

Gery Woelfel on 105.7 The Fan:

At this very moment, I’d say the odds are slim to none it’s going to happen … that he’ll be on this team next year.

I just don’t see a good fit there. I didn’t bring this up, and I’ve been meaning to do so, but I haven’t. He came very, very close to being traded at the deadline. And I think that spoke volumes of they think of Jabari Parker and whether he’s a part of their future plans.

Bucks executive Alex Lasry denied it:

So did general manager Jon Horst. Matt Velazquez of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

Horst made it clear both on the radio and in a separate interview with the Journal Sentinel on Wednesday that the Bucks never had any intention of trading Parker

Teams often discuss trading players then deny it to avoid offending the player. Whether or not they nearly traded Parker, the Bucks would probably respond now similarly.

As far as Parker’s future in Milwaukee, it’s unclear where the well-connected Woelfel’s reporting ends and his analysis begins. There’s a huge difference between trading Parker for value and letting him walk for nothing. Just because the Bucks came close to trading Parker wouldn’t mean they won’t re-sign him.

Shedding Parker would not open cap space without additional moves. It would probably allow Milwaukee to use the full mid-level exception and stay beneath the luxury-tax line. But that’s unlikely to land a player who combines Parker’s age and talent.

Because Parker will be a restricted free agent, the Bucks hold the cards. If he’s upset about trade talks or anything else, he can’t unilaterally leave.

Milwaukee must determine how much to pay Parker and how to utilize him with Giannis Antetokounmpo. Those are hard questions. But the Bucks throwing up their hands and letting Parker walk in free agency isn’t the answer.

Tony Parker: My quad injury 100 times worse than Kawhi Leonard’s

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Tony Parker reportedly led a players-only meeting in which Spurs implored Kawhi Leonard to return.

Leonard injured his quad last season, has played just nine games this season and remains sidelined. The Spurs have reportedly cleared him, but he got second opinions and is waiting for his medical team to clear him.

Parker injured his quad last May then returned in November – and said at the time Leonard would return in 2-3 weeks.

Tom Orsborn of the San Antonio Express-News:

It’s not hard to read between these lines.

Though some Spurs reportedly told Leonard to return only once he feels ready, Parker is clearly applying pressure. It’s not working, but he’s apparently not stopping.

These comments don’t befit a healthy organization, which is just so stunning for the Spurs, whose excellent culture has been exalted for year.

Maybe Parker will get his wish, and a shamed-into-playing Leonard will lead San Antonio deep into the playoffs. But it seems more likely these quotes will just increase tension.

Celtics: Kyrie Irving to undergo ‘minimally invasive procedure’ on injured knee

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With uncertainty surrounding Kyrie Irving‘s knee injury, the Celtics announced a course of action.

Celtics release:

The Boston Celtics announced today that guard Kyrie Irving will tomorrow undergo a minimally invasive procedure to alleviate irritation in his left knee. Further information will be provided following tomorrow’s procedure, and the team will have no further comment until that time.

This is so vague. We barely know more than we did before.

Irving reportedly might need the pins removed from his knee, so that’d be the first guess at the type of procedure. But that’s just a guess.

The Celtics look vulnerable with Irving hobbled, which is big update from yesterday, when the Celtics looked vulnerable with Irving hobbled.