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Baseline to Baseline recaps: Celtics, Spurs need OT for wins

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Welcome to PBT’s roundup of the day in NBA action. Or, what you missed while out buying a $4.2 million gold Christmas tree

Spurs 111, Raptors 106 (2OT): Now this is a close game — at the end of every quarter and the first overtime this was a one-point or tied game. Toronto needs to find solace in that moral victory. The Raptors hung in there despite an off-day shooting for most of the team (36.4 percent for the game, led by Andrea Bargnani who was 2-of-19). They got a great game from Jonas Valanciunas who had a career best 22 points on 13 shots and did a respectable defensive job on Tim Duncan (who still had 26 points and 6 dimes). DeMar DeRozan had 29 and hit the shot that forced the second overtime.

But Tony Parker had 32 points, Manu Ginobili took over for a stretch in the third and the Spurs had enough when it mattered despite some big minutes for the older vets. The second overtime started with a Danny Green three, the Raptors couldn’t climb out of one more hole and Parker sealed it with a couple jumpers.

Celtics 116, Magic 110 (OT): Rajon Rondo got heat for how he extended his double-digit assist streak the other night, but he earned this one — with Boston down six inside five minutes he had four assists to Kevin Garnett, the last one a jumper that tied the game at 102-102 (Rondo now tied John Stockton for consecutive games with double-digit assists). Boston closed the OT on a 12-4 run and the Celtics got a win. Jameer Nelson had some hot streaks — this time he took over for 8 straight points at the end of the third to keep the Magic in it — and J.J. Redick had 21. Boston got really good production out of its bench and that may have been the difference.

Knicks 121, Pistons 100: New York needed an easy win to get back on track after a couple losses — and enter Detroit. The Knicks took control of the game with a 21-9 run in the first quarter and pulled away more in the second, turning this into a laugher early. Carmelo Anthony had 29, 15 in the first quarter when the Knicks took control. Steve Novak had five threes, J.R. Smith had a double-double (15 points, 10 rebounds) and Rasheed Wallace added 15 points. Maybe the most interesting thing about this game is Darryl Strawberry and Philip Seymour-Hoffman sat courtside at Madison Square Garden.

Nets 98, Trail Blazers 85: This game was tied 70-70 entering the fourth quarter but Brooklyn pulled away for a pretty easy win. Portland had a few problems in this one, starting with LeMarcus Aldridge being out, but also there were the seven turnovers in the fourth, and that their bench didn’t score a point for the first three quarters (and still they were in it). Joe Johnson had 21 to lead a balanced Nets attack. Deron Williams had 15 points (but needed 13 shots) and 12 dimes.

Sixers 104, Suns 101: This was the most fun game of the day, with the two teams trading shots down the stretch — until Michael Beasley missed a layup with 2.8 seconds left that likely would have sent the game to overtime. Jrue Holiday had a monster day with 33 points (a career high) and 13 dimes as Doug Collins just kept the ball in his hands all game. Evan Turner added 16. Beasley had 21 points on just 13 shots, Marcin Gortat had 18.

Nuggets 102, Hornets 84: Denver started to take control of this one with an 11-1 run late in the first half, then owned the third quarter behind Ty Lawson’s 11 in the frame (17 overall). By the fourth quarter this one was garbage time. This is four straight wins for the streaky Nuggets. Anthony Davis is still out (4 games now) for New Orleans, who had Brian Roberts score 17 off the bench and Ryan Anderson add 16.

Cavaliers’ 3-point shooting was excellent. THEN, they made 25 in a game

Cleveland Cavaliers guard J.R. Smith (5) reacts after the Cavaliers beat the Atlanta Hawks 123-98 in Game 2 of a second-round NBA basketball playoff series, Wednesday, May 4, 2016, in Cleveland. Smith hit seven 3-pointers in the game. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)
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The Cavaliers set a record for 3-pointers in a team’s first six playoff games on this Kyrie Irving shot:

Did you notice anything strange about that clip?

It came in Game 1 against the Hawks – Cleveland’s fifth playoff game.

That’s right, the Cavs needed just five games to set a record for 3s through six playoff games. Then, they piled on 25 3-pointers – a record for any NBA game – in their Game 2 win over Atlanta on Wednesday.

Cleveland’s 97 3-pointers through six postseason games absolutely crushes the previous record:

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The difference between the Cavs and second place equals difference between second and 88th.

In fact, Cleveland has already demolished the record for 3s through EIGHT playoff games (previously 90 by the 2014-15 Hawks). Again, the Cavaliers have played just six games this postseason.

Where is all this outside output coming from? The key long-distance shot makers:

Add it all up, and the Cavs are making 16.2 3-pointers per game – which would easily set a playoff record:

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Cleveland could make no 3-pointers in its next two games – and still rank first for 3s per game in a postseason.

Not that the Cavs appear likely to go cold from distance anytime soon.

Their stars generate open looks and make 3s themselves. Smith is an unrepentant gunner, and he’s feeling it.

These are the Cavaliers as scary as they get.

John Wall undergoes surgery on both knees, expected to be ready for start of next season

Washington Wizards guard John Wall speaks during a media availability before an NBA basketball game against the Atlanta Hawks, Wednesday, April 13, 2016, in Washington. (AP Photo/Nick Wass)
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John Wall tried putting the Wizards on his back and carrying them into the playoffs.

Washington fell short, but the process still took a toll.

Wizards release:

The Washington Wizards announced that guard John Wall underwent a successful procedure today to excise calcific deposits in his left patella tendon in order to eliminate pain and assist healing.  He will begin the rehabilitation process immediately and is expected to be available for the start of the 2016-17 season.  Wall also underwent an arthroscopic lavage on his right knee in order to remove loose bodies.

If the Wizards are just using the next date most fans care about, this might not be such a big deal. That would open the door for Wall being healthy at any point over the summer.

But if the start of next season is his targeted return, that’s more troubling. Sitting an entire offseason is a big deal, and that means potential complications are more likely to cause him to miss games. It’s also a worse indicator for his long-term health.

As the Wizards enter free agency primed to spend, the last thing they need are questions about the length of their franchise player’s prime.

Larry Bird shows courage in his convictions by firing Frank Vogel

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Larry Bird sounded cruel.

The Pacers president announced to the world that Frank Vogel begged for his job. Not only did he oust the coach anyway, Bird seemed to toy with him at a press conference today. Asked what he’d tell someone checking Vogel’s references, Bird answered with a resounding: “He’s the best.” What will Bird look for in the Pacers’ next coach? The same things that led him to Vogel during the last search.

So why did Bird fire Vogel?

“My experience has been good coaches leave after three years,” Bird said.

And maybe Bird is cruel, foolish, self-absorbed or any other adjective being thrown at him today.

But also realize he sincerely believes this.

After all, he also ousted a coach who went 147-67, reached two conference finals and an NBA Finals and won Coach of the Year in his three-year tenure.

Himself.

Bird coached Indiana from 1997-2000, and even though he guided the team to the 2000 NBA Finals, he still stepped down after that third season.

“Three years is enough for a coach in any one place” Bird said he told the Pacers when they hired him.

Despite all his success, he stuck to it.

Bird said he spoke to Red Auerbach about the value of coaching turnover, and Boston had plenty. Bill Fitch got four years at the helm of Bird’s Celtics, K.C. Jones five – “nicest man I ever met, and they let him go, and we were having success,” Bird said – Jimmy Rodgers two and Chris Ford two (and another three after Bird retired).

Vogel coached Indiana five-and-a-half years.

“That’s a long time for me for a coach,” Bird said.

As so many teams across the NBA chase continuity, Bird actively rejects it – maybe to his detriment. Five of the six longest-tenured coaches in the league are still alive in the playoffs: Gregg Popovich (Spurs), Erik Spoelstra (Heat), Dwane Casey (Raptors), Terry Stotts (Trail Blazers) and Mike Budenholzer (Hawks). The Mavericks’ Rick Carlisle is the exception.

Bird just doesn’t want to follow that model.

“Every day the same voice and the same, I think guys sometimes tune that out,” Bird said. “It happens. It’s unfortunate.”

It is unfortunate, and it cost Vogel a job he appeared to be succeeding in and wanted to keep. You can wonder whether Bird and not just players tired of Vogel’s message, even if it were a wise one. Bird clearly believes he can assemble a roster, and he has own ideas about how he wants it coached (small, up-tempo, dynamic).

But don’t wonder about Bird’s intentions when he brings up three-year term limits for coaches.

Right or wrong, he believes in them.

Larry Bird: Kevin McHale won’t coach Pacers

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1. Kevin McHale withdrew from the Kings’ coaching search.

2. The Pacers fired Frank Vogel.

Will McHale reunite with former Celtics teammate Larry Bird in Indiana?

“I would not do that to Kevin, have him to work for me,”Bird said at a press conference today. “That’s just not fair. I respect the man too much, and we’ve been through too many battles together to bring him in here and be my coach. I would love for him to be my coach, but it ain’t going to happen, because our relationship.”

It would have been compelling to watch Bird and McHale work together, but I’m not convinced McHale is the best coach available – though that’s not the only concern.

After all, Bird just ousted someone who might be a better coach than any replacement.