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Deron Williams wants no part of the Dream Team vs. 2012 debate


It’s easy to get sucked up into the debate. It’s compelling, right? The best team arguably ever assembled, but held up in spite of the vast differential in athleticism, conditioning, and speed of the game. The modern team held up as a contradictory juxtaposition, a contrarian’s dream, with Kobe, LeBron, and KD at the forefront.

The debate over who would win in a match of the Dream Team ’92 vs. “We Wish We Had A Name That Rhymed With Team” Team ’12 has broken out over the headlines, with even Michael Jordan himself stepping down from the heavens and taking a break from ruining the Bobcats to chime in on how his guys would destroy the pups, and Kobe Bryant going right back at him, a sign in and of itself of how Bryant considers himself in Jordan’s context.

(Think about that. Who else is going to go right back at Michael Jordan in the press? LeBron James isn’t doing it. Allen Iverson wasn’t doing it. Only Kobe Bryant would have the audacity to question the GOAT and sound reasonable doing it. That’s Kobe.)

But in reality, it’s a ridiculously dumb question. Forget all the impossibilities in trying to really evaluate two sets of players out of their own eras. Forget the injury questions and who gets who with what injury erased. (If today’s team gets Dwight Howard back, does the Dream Team get Larry Bird at full strength?) Forget the fact that this argument has no discernible conclusion and more importantly, absolutely no impact on anything real or imagined in this world.

It’s the Dream Team. You’re not fighting reality here. You’re fighting legend. It’s like trying to say “Yeah, Paul Bunyan could chop down a lot of trees, but check out this new forestry machinery we invented! You could actually be able to dwarf a 60-foot-tall man’s production, but guess what? He still has a giant blue ox and you still have a thresher. You’re not winning that fight in public discourse.

One member who understands the power of the reductionist argument? Deron Williams.


And that’s it. “That team was the best ever.” Williams is as fierce a competitor as anyone. After all, he turned down more money to play in a smaller market… wait, no that’s not right. Just kidding. But Williams isn’t going to back down to anyone. And yet he knows that this isn’t a conversation you can win. It’s not about who the actual better team is. It’s just about that perception.

And in that realm, the Dream Team are undefeated.

Report: Matt Barnes attacked Derek Fisher, who’s dating Barnes’ estranged wife

Derek Fisher, Matt Barnes, Russell Westbrook

Matt Barnes is an instigator. He has been arrested for domestic violence. He also had a weird thing where he implied he was dating Rihanna only for her to claim they’d never never met.

Which is to say this is believable – that the Grizzlies forward attacked Knicks coach Derek Fisher for dating his estranged wife.

Ian Mohr of the New York Post:

Sources said Fisher was at the LA home of Gloria Govan — Barnes’ estranged wife​,​ who stars on “Basketball Wives LA” — on Saturday. Fisher and Govan have been dating for “a few months,” a source said, after Fisher filed to divorce his wife of 10 years, Candace, in March.

But when Barnes learned that Fisher was at his former home with Gloria, he drove 95 miles to LA to “beat the s–t” out of Fisher, sources said.

“Derek was in Gloria’s back yard with about 10 people having a bonfire on ​​Saturday,” said a source. “Derek’s separated from his wife and there’s a relationship with [Gloria].”

The source added, “Barnes was in Santa Barbara [at Memphis Grizzlies training camp] and heard that Fisher was in his house. He went crazy. He got in his car and went to the house and went after Fisher.”

​A source close to Fisher ​confirmed the fight but said, “Matt came after Derek but he only had a few scratches … Derek’s not going to press charges, he’s going to let it go.”

Even if Fisher – who missed practice Monday for what the Knicks called “personal reasons” – isn’t pressing charges, the NBA is investigating.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports:

This is a weird jurisdictional issue, especially if no criminal charges are filed. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the league punishes Barnes – a former Lakers teammate of Fisher – if it finds evidence to support the Post’s description of events.

Caron Butler details Gilbert Arenas-Javaris Crittenton gun incident

Caron Butler

Caron Butler wrote an autobiography, a recently published excerpt details his accounting of the Gilbert Arenas-Javaris Crittenton gun incident when they were with the Wizards.

An excerpt of the excerpt in The Washington Post:

When I entered the locker room, I thought I had somehow been transported back to my days on the streets of Racine. Gilbert was standing in front of his two locker stalls, the ones previously used by Michael Jordan, with four guns on display. Javaris was standing in front of his own stall, his back to Gilbert.

“Hey, MF, come pick one,” Gilbert told Javaris while pointing to the weapons. “I’m going to shoot your [expletive] with one of these.”

“Oh no, you don’t need to shoot me with one of those,” said Javaris, turning around slowly like a gunslinger in the Old West. “I’ve got one right here.”

He pulled out his own gun, already loaded, cocked it, and pointed it at Gilbert.

Other players who had been casually arriving, laughing and joking with each other, came to a sudden halt, their eyes bugging out. It took them only a few seconds to realize this was for real, a shootaround of a whole different nature. They all looked at each other and then they ran, the last man out locking the door behind him.

Somebody outside the locker room called 911. Flip Saunders was the coach back then, but he was too scared to even come into the locker room.

Click through to read the entire excerpt. It’s captivating.

Arenas is essentially retired and still spouting off silly takes.

Crittenton is currently serving a 23-year sentence for voluntary manslaughter.

Butler plays for the Kings.