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Union wants to negotiate, Stern says no wiggle room in offer

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After a long day of negotiations through the media, we stand looking off the cliff of a lost NBA season, and there are not a lot of positive signs on the horizon. Here are where things stand as of this writing.

First, there are no meetings planned between the owners and players union for Wednesday. That may still happen, but as of right now nothing is set. It’s pretty hard to strike a deal if you are not talking, so consider this the first bad omen.

On Tuesday NBA players’ union team representatives met, rejected the owners offer on the table and said they wanted more negotiations. According to tweets from Marc Stein at ESPN, the consensus at that meeting was to go with the 50/50 split of league revenues the owners want if the owners will give a few more things on system issues.

Then just more than an hour later David Stern went on NBA TV and said the owners were not changing their offer. At all. Neither system or revenue. When David Aldridge asked Stern if there was wiggle room on the owners offer, he replied:

“As of Sunday morning at 3 in the morning there was none left.”

Stern cleverly used a phrasing to suggest things could change, but don’t bet on it. The offer may be the offer. Stein says union reps were told that the league would be able to pass the offer on the table by a 17-13 vote (one of those yes votes coming from the league, which currently owns the Hornets). That’s not a lot of margin to be selling more change to the deal.

If the offer does not change, the players will not take it.

Then Stern has said he and the owners will revert to a rollback offer that includes player salary rollbacks, a hard salary cap, the players getting 47 percent of league revenues and other things the players would outright reject and be willing to lose a season to avoid. Basically, Stern would let his hardliners win.

That would spark the decertification on the union process — Paul Pierce and supporters of decertification reportedly have enough signatures to force a vote. They needed 30 percent of the union, which is about 130 players, and reportedly they have more than 200 signatures. Which is something union director Billy Hunter told CBSSports.com he was fine with.

“Listen, I’m cool with Paul and all these guys. I think it’s very important. I’m happy that Paul and the others are involved in the process. That’s always been the problem with athletes, that a lot of stuff is foisted on them and they have no input. Paul has been actively engaged, he understands, he’s been in five or six of our negotiating sessions, he talks to me, and when they had the (decertification) calls, he called and let me know that they were having the calls. And I said, ‘Hey, I’m not at all opposed to you doing that.’ … I endorse what Paul did.”

It would take about 45 to 60 days between when the players filed a signed petition with the National Labor Relations Board asking for a vote on decertification and when the actual vote would take place. That would leave a window for more negotiations. But if the owners really stick with their rollback plan there will not be much to talk about — a hard salary and salary rollbacks are the kind of thing the players will stay out for a season over. And decertify over.

As CBA expert Larry Coon told us, the likelihood of the players voting to blow up the union would depend on when the vote takes place. If it is before the league’s deadline to cancel the season it might be hard to get the votes, but after the players likely would vote to decertify and sue the league on anti-trust grounds.

All this means that Wednesday the sides need to sit down, treat each other like adults for a change, and pound out a compromise deal.

I wouldn’t bet on it happening, though.

New Grizzlies coach David Fizdale: ‘I didn’t leave Miami and that beautiful beach and all that water and good stuff to come here to lose’

LOS ANGELES, CA - JULY 17:  (L-R) NBA players LeBron James, David Fizdale, Dwyane Wade, Ray Allen and Erik Spoelstra accept award for Best Team onstage at The 2013 ESPY Awards at Nokia Theatre L.A. Live on July 17, 2013 in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images for ESPY)
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) David Fizdale left no doubt about his intentions in the longtime assistant’s new job as the Memphis Grizzlies’ head coach.

“I’m here to win,” Fizdale said Tuesday at his introductory news conference. “That’s the best way to put it. I didn’t leave Miami and that beautiful beach and all that water and good stuff to come here to lose. I came here to win. And I came here to be a big part of this community, a big part of the people here. I’m going to be out and about, and I’m going to be involved in everything.”

Fizdale replaces Dave Joerger, who was fired May 7 after three seasons and three playoff appearances. Joerger has since been hired as the Sacramento Kings’ coach.

In Memphis, Fizdale takes over a team with the NBA’s third-longest postseason streak at six straight seasons, behind only San Antonio (19) and Atlanta (nine). But center Marc Gasol is recovering from a broken foot, while point guard Mike Conley hits free agency in July.

“The goal is to win a title, no doubt about it,” Fizdale said. “With the pieces that we have and the pieces that we’re going to put together, with us working together in collaboration, I see no reason why we won’t have an opportunity to take that run.”

Although this marks Fizdale’s first NBA head coaching job, Grizzlies general manager Chris Wallace cited the longtime assistant’s background as evidence that Fizdale is “uniquely prepared to lead the Grizzlies into the future.”

Fizdale was an assistant coach with Golden State in 2003-04 and the Atlanta Hawks between 2004 and 2008. He started coaching as an assistant at his alma mater, the University of San Diego.

He also spent a season as Miami’s video intern in 1997-98.

The Grizzlies gave Fizdale his first head coaching opportunity during an offseason when many other teams went with NBA head coaching veterans such as Tom Thibodeau in Minnesota, Nate McMillan in Indiana and Frank Vogel in Orlando.

“I feel very confident that I’m ready for this. … I’m going to attack this job,” Fizdale said.

Memphis wrapped up its selection process less than three weeks after dismissing Joerger.

He Grizzlies also considered former Grizzlies and Nets coach Lionel Hollins, Charlotte assistant Patrick Ewing, Portland assistant Nate Tibbets, Spurs assistants James Borrego and Ettore Messina as well as Vogel.

Now that they’ve found their coach, the Grizzlies can concentrate on personnel matters.

The Grizzlies are waiting for Gasol’s foot to heal after his season ended in February. Conley is due to become a free agent after left Achilles tendinitis ended his season in early March. Memphis also has to decide whether to exercise the option on Lance Stephenson and if they should keep Vince Carter, JaMychal Green and Xavier Munford.

Report: Most insiders consider Kevin Durant signing 1+1 contract with Thunder most likely

OAKLAND, CA - MAY 16:  Kevin Durant #35 of the Oklahoma City Thunder leads his team on the court during game one of the NBA Western Conference Final against the Golden State Warriors at ORACLE Arena on May 16, 2016 in Oakland, California. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)
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The summer of Kevin Durant has arrived.

What will the superstar do in free agency?

Marc Stein of ESPN:

File this under: Do they know something? Executives around the league are sometimes better positioned to gain and share inside information, but sometimes, they’re supposing just like the rest of us. The possibility of the former makes this noteworthy, but don’t rule out the latter.

Durant signing a two-year contract with a player option would make a lot of sense. He’ll be eligible for a much higher max in 2017, because he’ll have 10 years of experience and the salary cap will continue to skyrocket. He could also spend another season with an excellent Thunder team that just beat the Spurs and pushed the Warriors to a Game 7. Plus, his next free agency would coincide with Russell Westbrook‘s in 2017. That way, Durant could stay with this team that should compete for a title next year without getting trapped in Oklahoma City if Westbrook leaves.

It’s easy to assign our values to this situation and then say what Durant should do, but this is about what matters to him. How important is money? How much risk is he willing to take on a short contract? Does he want to stay with Westbrook and his other teammates? Does he believe other teams offer him a greater chance to win a championship?

There are so many issues for him to weigh, and he’ll surely give teams an opportunity to pitch him come July. He’ll gather more information before signing.

That is to say, if Durant is leaning one direction – and I’m not sure he is yet – so much  still stands between now and him signing.

Cavaliers fan makes good on bet, eats shirt after Warriors win West

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Don’t make a bet you’re not willing to follow through on. I mean, we all do it — “If Trump wins I’m moving to Canada” — but never really mean it. We don’t follow through.

Except sometimes people do.

Reddit NBA user ‘PARTYxDIRTYDAN’ made a bet that he would eat his shirt if the Warriors repeated as Western Conference champions. Call it a bad beat if you want — he came about as close to winning that bet as he could without actually winning it — but the man was good to his word. He had a little BBQ sauce on it, but he ate his shirt.

He probably shouldn’t make a similar bet in the Finals, no matter how big a Cavs fan he is.

(Hat tip Deadspin)

NBC/PBT Podcast: Cavaliers vs. Warriors NBA Finals preview with Dan Feldman

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LeBron James got what he probably wanted deep down — a second chance at Stephen Curry and the Golden State Warriors in the NBA Finals (starting Thursday night). It’s a chance for revenge from last season and to knock Curry off his pedestal.

Except this is a difficult matchup for the Cavaliers and their current style of play, something Kurt Helin and Dan Feldman of NBC Sports get into in this breakdown of what’s to come on the NBA’s biggest stage.

They both foresee a long couple of weeks coming for Kevin Love, and difficulty for the Cavaliers getting enough stops. While the Cavaliers now want to play faster and shoot threes, they may have to change tactics against the Warriors.

As always, you can listen to the podcast below, or listen and subscribe via iTunes, download it directly here, or you can check out our new PBT Podcast homepage, which has the most recent episodes available. If you have the Stitcher app, you can listen there as well.