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Union player reps to meet, want negotiations with owners

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David Stern threw out an ultimatium — agree to our deal by Wednesday or come Thursday you get a much worse offer from us. (Stern doesn’t want to call it an ultimatum, but that’s exactly what it is.)

There are three player and union reactions to this, and those reactions are where we stand Monday morning.

First, the union is having meetings with all 30 NBA team player representatives Tuesday to update them on where things stand and to talk strategy, reported first at ESPN. (That follows a Monday conference call.)

The union will not present Stern’s offer to the union for a vote, rather this is a chance to talk strategy and get everyone on the same page. (Stern’s offer calls for a 51-49 percent band on BRI that is worded so that in practice it is really 50/50, plus a mini mid-level exception for tax paying teams, no sign-and-trade for tax payers and a few other system items the players do not consider enough.)

Secondly, the union is hoping to get back to the negotiating table with the owners and negotiate more, ESPN adds.

Sources close to the talks revealed later Sunday that the union is actually holding out hope that the league will call to re-open negotiations before Wednesday, with an eye toward tweaking some of the system issues to lead to a more palatable deal that the NBPA would be comfortable with putting to a vote. The union’s belief, sources say, is that a few changes — none of them monumental — could produce a deal now that the gap on the revenue was closed further in Saturday’s negotiations.

Meanwhile, on a third front, an effort to decertify the union has started to gain momentum. There will be a third call talking decertification with players this week and a drive to get the needed about 130 signatures to force a vote is moving forward. There are questions if they can get that, and even if they get that there are bigger questions if they can get the more the more than 225 votes to actually decertify.

Some — including prominent agents — think the threat of anti-trust lawsuits after decertification could force the owners to give more. They think it’s the players’ best shot at leverage.

Maybe. But don’t bet on it. The NFL players union decertified and the league basically won the one and only legal ruling out of that case, one that was very narrow. The upshot of it is that is that while the union’s case could go forward this is a process that would take several years. Nobody thinks the players can hold out that long. A deal would be struck and the union reconstituted before any real damage came to the owners (if there would be any).

But that’s where we stand. The union will talk strategy, even though right now they don’t have a really good one.

Enjoy 50-best circus shots of last NBA season

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As of tomorrow, training camps around the league open, and all the focus goes to the 2016-17 season.

For fun, let’s look back one more time at last season — the 50 top circus shots of last season.

Stephen Curry driving the lane and throwing up prayers once he draws contact (and hitting them), there is Russell Westbrook throwing the inbounds pass off an opponent’s back, and so much more. Enjoy. Then let’s get on with next season.

To avoid trash talk, Steven Adams told Kevin Garnett he didn’t speak English

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Kevin Garnett intimidates people. In the machismo-fueled world of professional sports nobody comfortably admits they were intimidated, but in the wake of Garnett announcing his retirement, a number of players stepped forward to say exactly that. And that KG trashed talked them fearlessly.

Oklahoma City’s Steven Adams found a way to avoid that — tell KG he didn’t speak English.

Brilliant.

Adams was lucky, KG had a reputation for going harder at foreign-born players with his trash talk and intimidation. Then again Adams is not the kind of guy prone to be intimidated.

Pistons’ Stan Van Gundy “encouraged” by players speaking out, protesting social issues

CLEVELAND, OH - APRIL 17: Head coach Stan Van Gundy of the Detroit Pistons yells to his players during the first half of the NBA Eastern Conference quarterfinals against the Cleveland Cavaliers at Quicken Loans Arena on April 17, 2016 in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Jason Miller/Getty Images)  *** Local Caption ***Stan Van Gundy
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Athletes are injecting themselves into the needed national conversation about race, violence, and policing in this nation. That has taken some very public forms, including LeBron James, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony speaking at the ESPYs, and Colin Kaepernick taking a knee during the national anthem and leading others to do so. Some NBA players likely will follow Kaepernick’s lead.

Pistons coach/GM Stan Van Gundy likes seeing players speak out.

A couple of his Detroit players — Reggie Jackson and Marcus Morris — said they backed the 49ers quarterback. Here is what the never shy Van Gundy said about all of it, via Vincent Ellis of the Detroit Free Press.

“I’m encouraged by the fact of what some of those guys stood up and did at the ESPYs and had a conversation,” Van Gundy said. “I’m really proud of the fact that we have guys that not only see the problem, but want to try to do something about it…

“To me, in some ways, (police brutality is) just the most visible to focus on and it goes to deeper inequities in our criminal justice system, our education system so there’s so much to focus on,” Van Gundy said. “I think it’s great that we have players that want to be part of that conversation, and a lot of players that want to go beyond the conversation and be part of the solution.”

Van Gundy has been telling his players part of that solution is to vote.

The players union and NBA sent out a release saying they wanted to work together to create positive change, but details are still vague on what that might be. The only thing we know for sure as we head into the NBA season — with as divided a nation and election as anyone can remember as a backdrop — is that some NBA players are going to try and keep the conversation going.

Sunday is 16th anniversary of greatest dunk ever: Vince Carter over Frederic Weis

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It was the last game of the group stage of the 2000 Olympic basketball tournament at the Sydney Olympics, the USA was taking on France, another USA win on its way to another gold medal.

But what we all remember is this one play — Vince Carter dunking over the 7’2″ French center Frederic Weis.

Best. Dunk. Ever.

By anyone.

Weis was never the same.

In an impressive career — two-time All-NBA, eight-time All-Star, hours and hours of crazy highlights — this is always going to be the highlight at the top of the list. So we will use the anniversary of this dunk to look at it one more time.

Hat tip to nitramy at NBA Reddit.