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Tuesday’s labor talks could salvage season, but don’t bet on it

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The days of “at least they are still talking” being good enough are over.

Just the fact that NBA owners and the players union were sitting down in the same room together was progress enough for a while (because that was an improvement). No longer. Unless Commissioner David Stern and union director Billy Hunter leave a New York hotel Tuesday smiling and talking of serious progress toward the framework for a deal, there is no real chance of the NBA season starting as scheduled Nov. 1.

And it’s hard to see how the two sides — which have been meeting for two years without a deal — are going to suddenly find common ground in one day. Everyone needs to give up more to make a deal work but neither side seems willing to do so. Stern cannot just try to break the union, he has to give the players some victories that they can call a win and a fair deal (why else would they vote to ratify it?). The players — who have already given back more than $150 million a year in total salaries — will have to accept some additional spending restrictions by the owners (a more severe luxury tax on big spending teams) and more.

Both sides said after Monday’s smaller group meeting that Tuesday shapes up as the critical day. A number of owners and players will be in the room and will try to find their way to the framework of a deal.

If they don’t, expect an announcement from the league quickly that all of the NBA’s preseason games have been cancelled (already all games before Oct. 15 have been called off). A second announcement postponing the start of the NBA’s regular season will not be far behind. (It will take about a month from the day a handshake deal is reached to when the first NBA regular season game tips off, and right now there are 28 days left until the scheduled opener.)

The big issue remains the split of “basketball related income” or BRI. In the last labor deal the players got 57 percent and the owners blame that split for why they lost $300 million last season (a number in dispute). In their most recent discussions, the players have reportedly come down to 53 percent, but the owners are only offering the players about 48 percent. That is roughly a $200 million gap in year one of at least a six year deal. The bigger key is aggragate dollars over the life of the labor deal, but if the two sides are that far apart in year one it’s not going to get any better for them in year five. (I still expect the final deal to be around 51/49 with the players getting the larger share).

Beyond that there are issues of system — should there be a hard salary cap (the owners have backed off an NHL-style cap demand) or more like a soft cap that existed before? What kind of exceptions to the cap should their be and how many (for example, teams likely will have one “Bird rule” exception per year, where they can go over the cap to keep their own free agent)? What will the luxury tax structure be? None of this has been agreed to, either.

Then there are the outside pressures, like agents who are considering forcing decertification of the union against Hunter’s wishes, something reported by Adrian Wojnarowski at Yahoo. This would be the nuclear option, essentially agents trying to oust union chief Hunter and throw the issue to the courts. If there is no deal Tuesday, you can expect some agents to push for this.

With all that, it’s hard to see how the framework of a deal can be reached Tuesday. The gap is too wide and neither side seems willing to build a bridge. The owners have the leverage right now and seem intent on using it to get a resounding victory, even if that means games are lost.

It’s hard to see how the full NBA season can be salvaged out of all this. But if it’s going to happen, it’s going to happen Tuesday.

Report: Pelicans’ Tyreke Evans out for season due to knee surgery

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The Pelicans’ just can’t get and stay healthy. Tyreke Evans just can’t stay healthy this season.

Evans — who has averaged 15.2 points and a team-high 6.6 assists per game this seasin — is done for the season following knee surgery, reports Shams Charania of the Vertical at Yahoo Sports.

The Pelicans had been looking at potential trades for Evans, all of that is dead now. (New Orleans would like to move Eric Gordon, but most other teams are more interested in Ryan Anderson.)

The Pelicans have been 3.2 points per 100 possessions better this season with Evans on the court. However, in recent weeks coach Alvin Gentry has given increasing minutes and increasing responsibilities to Jrue Holiday.

It is possible Gentry keeps Bryce Dejean-Jones starting and bringing Holiday off the bench (as he did last game), just to keep the bench rotations where he wants them. Also, expect Norris Cole to get more run.

None of this matters much, this has been a lost season for the 19-32 Pelicans. They are the current 12 seed, 6.5 games out of the last playoff spot, they are not catching anyone. Don’t be shocked if Anthony Davis is shut down early for the season as well.

John Wall, Wizards ruin Rambis’ Knicks debut with 111-108 win

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NEW YORK (AP) — John Wall had 28 points and 17 assists, Bradley Beal scored 26, and the Washington Wizards beat New York 111-108 on Tuesday night in the Knicks’ first game under Kurt Rambis.

Wall made four free throws in the final 6.6 seconds and the Wizards held on when Langston Galloway‘s 3-pointer at the buzzer was just short.

Carmelo Anthony had 33 points and 13 rebounds, but the Knicks lost their sixth straight in their first game since firing Derek Fisher on Monday. They have dropped 10 of 11 and started Rambis’ era the same way Fisher’s ended, by quickly falling in a huge early hole.

Rookie Kristaps Porzingis scored 20 points, but just two after his 14-point third quarter.

Beal also took a charge against Arron Afflalo when a video replay overturned what had been ruled a blocking foul on a basket with 44 seconds left, a play that could have cut Washington’s lead to two.

Wall then kept the Wizards ahead with his free throws and they won for the third time in nine games. The All-Star made the go-ahead basket midway through the fourth, and later added a pair of jumpers before a 3-pointer that seemed to put it away at 106-96 with about 1:50 left.

The Knicks fired Fisher on Monday and appointed Rambis the interim coach through the remainder of the season. Drafted by the Knicks in the third round in 1980, Rambis said for the second straight day that it’s important for the Knicks to get into the playoffs, but that will take a huge turnaround after the All-Star break.

They allowed 63 first-half points, trying their most this season, after he said they had to toughen up their defense.

Porzingis hit a couple of 3-pointers early in the third, but his signature play came much closer to the basket, when he spun baseline around Jared Dudley and threw down a powerful dunk with Marcin Gortat nearby. That put a buzz in the building as only the rookie can and it stayed there as the Knicks caught up at 83-all to end the period.

But Porzingis was on the bench to start the fourth and the Wizards had just gone ahead for good before he returned.

TIP-INS

Wizards: Washington has won five straight at Madison Square Garden. … Guard Gary Neal missed the game with a sore right leg.

Knicks: Phil Jackson, during an interview with MSG Network, said the chances of a trade before next week’s deadline were “very slim” but that they would be looking. … Reserve forward Lance Thomas returned after missing two games because of a concussion. … F Thanasis Antetokounmpo rejoined Westchester of the NBA Development League after playing two games for the Knicks.

 

Hassan Whiteside ejected for elbowing Boban Marjanovic in face (video)

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Hassan Whiteside defends himself when questions about his maturity early in his career with the Kings arise:

“That was a long time ago,” Whiteside said. “If they want to think about things that happened four, five years ago, that’s up to them.

“I don’t think it’s something that should follow me, but I really don’t know right now. That was years ago. Things didn’t work out in Sacramento. I worked my way to get back here. I could’ve easily gave up and went back home and just chilled. But I put in the work, and I feel like I’m a hard worker or I wouldn’t be here.”

But then he does something like this.

Gordon Hayward beats buzzer, Mavericks (video)

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Rodney Hood got the Jazz to overtime.

Gordon Hayward took it from there.

This extends Utah’s win streak to eight games and snaps a 10-game losing streak in Dallas. The last time the Jazz won in Dallas? Mavericks guard Deron Williams started – for Utah.*

*Those Jazz brought Paul Millsap, Kyle Korver and Wesley Matthews off the bench. Dang