Report: NBA players, owners to meet next week. Maybe.

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There are conflicting reports out there about future meetings between the players and owners next week. But we are optimists, we believe a meeting will happen. Even if we have to close our eyes, plug our nose and act like a three-year-old in front of a plate of Brussels sprouts to avoid reality.

The owners and players are expected to have a bargaining session next week, according to reports from the Associated Press and Howard Beck of the New York Times. This would be the one meeting in front of the Labor Day deadline.

Nobody expects progress out of this meeting, which means we start to see consequences, Beck notes.

Without progress by Labor Day, NBA will probably have to postpone training camps. After that, preseason games.

That, folks, is the optimistic side.

For the pessimistic version we turn to players union VP Mo Evans, who spoke with Ken Berger of CBS Sports.

After union officials briefed about 10 players on the dismal state of collective bargaining talks at the NBPA headquarters in Harlem, union vice president Mo Evans said there were no immediate plans for a bargaining session until perhaps after Labor Day.

“We’re looking forward to the owners re-engaging us after a couple of weeks of vacation,” Evans told CBSSports.com by phone after landing in Chicago, where the NBPA will hold another regional meeting Thursday. “We’re ready to negotiate. We’re ready and we’re available.”

Evans later told the AP that there are talks about a talk, but no date or time has been set. Details, details.

He also said that what players have told him in meetings around the country is what LaMarcus Aldridge said earlier this week — players are willing to lose a full season rather than cave on a bad deal for them.

“When we’re able to explain exactly what David Stern is asking for, it becomes so clear and evident that we cannot take this deal, and guys would be willing to not participate, to not play, if that’s the offer to us,” Evans told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Chicago, where the union was set to hold another meeting Thursday.

Some owners feel the same way, they will give up the season to get a deal they want. It likely will take a ruling by the National Labor Relations Board — both sides have filed grievances that the other is not negotiating in good faith — or some other legal action to get the one or both sides to actually compromise. That and the pressure of time and missed games will build on the two sides.

Eventually both the owners and players will settle for a deal they can live with rather than a victory, only to find out there are a whole lot fewer fans who care. Missing games arguing over millions and billions during a deep recession is a terrible idea. Both sides give lip service to that, but neither side will back away from the precipice, either.

Lucky? Klay Thompson reminds Doc Rivers which team lost to Rockets

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There’s this overplayed angle talked about by some fans and pundits suggesting the Warriors just got lucky last season — for example, they faced a banged-up Rockets’ team in the conference finals then a Cavaliers’ squad without two of their big three through the Finals. Then there was Clippers’ coach Doc Rivers saying the Warriors were lucky not having to play the Clippers or Spurs in the postseason.

The Warriors are sick of hearing they were lucky.

Friday Klay Thompson fired back at Rivers, via CSNBayArea.com.

– “I wanted to play the Clippers last year, but they couldn’t handle their business.”
– “If we got lucky, look at our record against them last year (Warriors 3-1). I’m pretty sure we smacked them.”
– “Didn’t they lose to the Rockets? Exactly. So haha. That just makes me laugh. That’s funny. Weren’t they up 3-1 too?”
– “Yeah, tell them I said that. That’s funny. That’s funny.”

Warriors big man Andrew Bogut phrased it differently.

If you think the Warriors just won because they were lucky — you are dead wrong.

They were the best team in the NBA last season, bar none. They won 67 regular season games in a tough conference, then beat everyone in their path to win a title. Did they catch some breaks along the way, particularly with health? You bet. Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, and Kobe Bryant didn’t win a title without catching some breaks along the way, either. Nobody does. Luck plays a role, but it was not the primary factor in why the Warriors are champs.

All this talk of them getting lucky is fuel for the fire they needed not to be complacent this season. Way to give the defending champs bulletin board material, Doc.

Dwyane Wade serious as mentor, teaching Justise Winslow post moves

Third day of Miami Heat camp 10/1/2015
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Dwyane Wade has earned his status as an elder statesman, the E.F. Hutton kind of veteran who speaks and everybody listens.

Rookie Justise Winslow is listening.

Winslow (who should have gone higher in this draft) is a perfect fit for the Heat and he’s going to be part of their rotation off the bench from the start of the season (along with Josh McRoberts and Amare Stoudemire). Wade has already fully stepped into the mentor role with Winslow working with him on post moves, reports Jason Lieser at the Palm Beach Post.

“As his career develops, hopefully he’s able to do multiple things on the floor, but right now there’s gonna be certain things (Erik Spoelstra) wants him to do, and some of those things I’m good at,” Wade said. “I’m just passing down knowledge to someone who I think could be good at things that I have strengths at. It’s gonna take a while, but if he figures it out at 21, he’s ahead of the curve. I figured it out at like 27.

“All of us are where we’re at because someone before us helped us. They helped by letting us sit there and watch film with them or having conversations with them. If he’s a student of it and he really wants to know, I’m a pretty decent teacher in certain areas.”

This is what you want out of a veteran leader and some of the young teams out there have done an excellent job adding this kind of mentor — Kevin Garnett in Minnesota may be the best example. Someone who can pass on his wisdom and show the team’s young players how to be a professional and win in the NBA.

It’s a little different for Winslow, he and the Heat are more in a win-now mode, but he should be able to contribute to that.