Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with Bucks

Most minutes played in NBA history, regular season and playoffs? Kareem.

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When we talk about the wear and tear on a player’s body, we can quickly look up how many regular season minutes a player has racked up.

But that leaves out the playoffs. For a player like Kobe Bryant, that is 8,165 minutes — the equivalent of three more 82 game seasons at his regular season minutes average. That is a lot of additional wear and tear.

So when you combine regular season and playoff minutes, who has racked up the most minutes in NBA history? Henry at TrueHoop wanted to know, asked Basketball-Reference.com to crunch the numbers (because they do it better than anyone).

Your all time Top 10:

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 66,297
2. Karl Malone 62,759
3. Wilt Chamberlain 55,418
4. John Stockton 54,162
5. Elvin Hayes 54,160
6. John Havlicek 53,331
7. Reggie Miller 52,927
8. Gary Payton 52,599
9. Jason Kidd 52,386
10. Robert Parish 51,881

Kidd is the highest among active players, with Kobe next at No. 16 all time (48,310), Kevin Garnett at No. 18 (47,998) and Ray Allen at No. 24 (45,156). Go check out the whole list to see more.

Most of the players are of a modern generation, which shouldn’t be a shock due to superior training, diet and surgery (knee injuries that ended your career before keep you out six weeks now).

One last thought — we forget how great Kareem was for how long. When you talk about the greatest players ever, he has to be in the conversation.

It’s an interesting list, go check it out.

Gordon Hayward goes behind Jordan Clarkson’s back with dribble

Gordon Hayward, Nick Young
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Utah’s Gordon Hayward abused the Lakers’ Jordan Clarkson on this play.

First, Hayward reads and steals Clarkson’s poor feed into the post intended for Kobe Bryant, then going up the sideline he takes his dribble behind Clarkson’s back to keep going. It all ends in a Rudy Gobert dunk.

Three quick takeaways here:

1) Gordon Hayward is a lot better than many fans realize. He can lead this team.

2) It’s still all about the development with Clarkson, and that’s going to mean some hard lessons.

3) Hayward may have the best hair in the NBA, even if it’s going a bit Macklemore.

(Hat tip reddit)

Could Tristan Thompson’s holdout last months? Windhorst says yes.

2015 NBA Finals - Game Five
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VIZZINI: “So, it is down to you. And it is down to me.”
MAN IN BLACK nods and comes nearer…
MAN IN BLACK: “Perhaps an arrangement can be reached.”
VIZZINI: “There will be no arrangement…”
MAN IN BLACK: “But if there can be no arrangement, then we are at an impasse.”

That farcical scene from The Princess Bride pretty much sums up where we are with the Tristan Thompson holdout with the Cleveland Cavaliers, minus the Iocane powder. (Although that scene was a battle of wits in the movie and this process seems to lack much wit.) The Cavaliers have put a five-year, $80 million offer on the table. Thompson wants a max deal (or at least a more than has been offered), but he also doesn’t want to play for the qualifying offer and didn’t sign it. LeBron James just wants the two sides just to get it done.

Brian Windhorst of ESPN thinks LeBron could be very disappointed.

Windhorst was on the Zach Lowe podcast at Grantland (which you should be listening to anyway) and had this to say about the Thompson holdout:

“I actually believe it will probably go months. This will go well into the regular season.”

Windhorst compared it to a similar situation back in 2007 with Anderson Varejao, which eventually only broke because the then Charlotte Bobcats signed Varejao to an offer sheet. Thompson is a restricted free agent, meaning the Cavaliers can match any offer, but only Portland and Philadelphia have the cap space right now to offer him a max contract. Neither team has shown any interest in doing so.

And so we wait. And we may be waiting a while.