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Winderman: How July 8, 2010, helped lead us to lockout

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We’re sure this is not the final time we’ll be going through this exercise in coming weeks, or even (hopefully not) coming months, the a-year-ago game.

Thursday marks the one-year anniversary of the start of the much-hyped 2010 NBA free-agency signing period.

July 8, 2010 was, without question, a seismic moment. Amare Stoudemire signed with the Knicks. Carlos Boozer signed with the Bulls. Paul Pierce re-upped with the Celtics.

But July 8, 2010 also was, in hindsight, somewhat of a preview of why we are where we stand today, in the midst of a lockout.

It was the day the Nets signed Travis Outlaw to a five-year contract.

The day the Bucks gave five years to Drew Gooden.

When the Suns extended a four-year deal to Hakim Warrick.

It also was the day Milwaukee extended a five-year deal to John Salmons accompanied with so much regret that Salmons now can be found in Sacramento.

But more than any of such small-time foolishness was this:

July 8, 2010 was the day the Atlanta Hawks inked Joe Johnson to the largest contract of any that would be extended during the uber-hyped 2010 free-agency period.

Six years, $123 million.

$14 million more than LeBron James would agree to two days later.

$16 million more than Dwyane Wade would get to return to the Heat.

Joe Johnson.

As ownership would say amid the start to this lockout: Asked and answered.

A year later, the debate in Atlanta is the worst contract ever extended by the Hawks, a question of whether it rivals the one offered to Jon Koncak in 1989, certainly not in overall scale, but in terms of return on payout, relative to the times.

It arguably is Example A at the negotiating table of what can’t happen again, a star holding a franchise hostage because of lack of a replacement option or replacement means.

Mind you, Joe Johnson is what he is, a player talented enough to drive the Hawks into the second round of playoffs, a consistent scoring threat alongside the inconsistency that is Josh Smith.

But the problem with having a maximum salary as part of a collective-bargaining agreement is that it becomes the starting point, teams forced to negotiate down from that level. Some players, such as Stoudemire and Boozer, get it, that they simply are not in max-out stages of their careers, due to age, injury or productivity.

If the NBA does find a way out of this darkness, it needs to find a way to sort out this high end of its salary equation, before the next Joe Johnson steps up to the table.

Ira Winderman writes regularly for NBCSports.com and covers the Heat and the NBA for the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. You can follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat.

Derrick Rose calls Knicks’ triangle offense “complicated,” said Phil Jackson was grumpy

New York Knicks' Derrick Rose, left, talks with head coach Jeff Hornacek during NBA basketball training camp in Tarrytown, N.Y., Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2016. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)
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The list of traditional ball-handling point guards who liked and thrived in Phil Jackson’s triangle offense is a short one. While guys who could initiate the offense then play off the ball did well (Derek Fisher, for example), traditional points used to controlling the flow of the game chaffed in the system. Ask Gary Payton about it.

So how are things going with Derrick Rose as he adjusts to the triangle in New York?

If Phil Jackson were going to be any of the seven dwarfs, it would be Grumpy.

The Knicks are going to run a hybrid version of the triangle that will incorporate coach Jeff Hornacek’s preferred up-tempo style and the offense Jackson wants in the halfcourt.

Slotting in a number of new players — Rose, Joakim Noah, Brandon Jennings, etc. — with a new system likely means some early-season struggles on offense for the Knicks. The team’s offense should smooth out as the season stretches out — so long as they can stay healthy. But that’s a different discussion.

Tyronn Lue trying to talk Kevin Garnett into becoming Cavaliers assistant coach

WESTWOOD, CA - JULY 22:  NBA player Kevin Garnett (M) looks over at NBA player Tyronn Lue (L) during the singles final of the Countrywide Classic on July 22, 2007 in Straus Stadium at the Los Angeles Tennis Center-UCLA in Westwood, California.  (Photo by Lisa Blumenfeld/Getty Images)
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Three all-time greats retired from the NBA this year.

What’s next for Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett?

Kobe is making movies and babies. Duncan is hanging around Spurs practice and is expected to join the franchise full-time.

Garnett? Cavaliers coach Tyronn Lue, who was an assistant coach for the Celtics when Garnett played in Boston, wants him to join his staff.

Lue, via Joe Vardon of Cleveland.com:

“I talked to him about it,” Lue said Thursday, following the Cavs’ practice. “I know his wife is pushing for it a lot. Brandi is pushing for it, trying to get him to come and coach. He says he’s not ready yet. He goes back, ‘I might do it,’ but he’s back and forth. We’ll see.

“But I’d definitely make a spot for him if he wanted to come back and coach.”

Lue said Garnett would be in Cleveland for the Cavs’ opening night ceremonies, which will include the raising of the franchise’s first championship banner.

I’d be surprised if Garnett joins Cleveland’s staff, but I’m also surprised Garnett is joining the Cavs to celebrate a title he played no part in winning. So, maybe ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

More importantly, has Lue checked with LeBron James about this idea? LeBron might not like it.

PBT Podcast: Lakers, Pacific Division preview with Mark Medina of L.A. Daily News

Los Angeles Lakers' D'Angelo Russell, left, poses with with Jordan Clarkson (6) during the team's NBA basketball media day in El Segundo, Calif., Monday, Sept. 26, 2016. (AP Photo/Nick Ut)
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We’re baaaaaack!

The ProBasketballTalk Podcast at NBC Sports is done with its summer hiatus, and there will be a couple of podcasts a week now running through the NBA season, trade deadline, playoffs, and eventually free agency. We’ll talk about it all.

We start with NBA season previews, going division by division, and we start that tour on the West Coast. Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News joins Kurt Helin of NBC to talk about the Lakers and their rebuild. From there the conversation goes to questions such as can anyone beat the Warriors? Are the Clippers contenders? Plus we talk about the building processes going on in Sacramento and Phoenix.

As always, you can check out the podcast below, or listen and subscribe via iTunes (check there to see all the NBC Sports podcasts), subscribe via the fantastic Stitcher app, check us out on Google play, or check out our new PBT podcast homepage and archive at Audioboom.com.

Report: Rockets signing P.J. Hairston

HOUSTON, TX - DECEMBER 21:  James Harden #13 of the Houston Rockets and P.J. Hairston #19 of the Charlotte Hornets watch a shot during their game at Toyota Center on December 21, 2015 in Houston, Texas. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Scott Halleran/Getty Images)
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The Rockets created a little roster confusion by giving Gary Payton II a fully guaranteed deal, bringing Houston to 15 players (the regular-season roster limit) with guaranteed salaries plus restricted free agent Donatas Motiejunas.

This won’t clarify the situation, but P.J. Hairston will give the Rockets another intriguing piece.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports:

Hairston was a first-round pick just two years ago, and at age 23, he still presents upside. He has at least stopped producing negative headline after negative headline after negative

Now, we can focus on just Hairston’s major on-court flaws. He misses a lot of shots and does little else. But he has some raw tools, even if they barely showed with the Hornets and Grizzlies.

If the Rockets make a roster-clearing move, they could take a chance on keeping the talented/troubled wing around. More likely, he heads to the D-League, where Houston can develop him in its system.