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Kyrie Irving is a deserving No. 1 pick

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Kyrie Irving will be the No. 1 pick in the 2011 NBA Draft.

But he wouldn’t have beaten out John Wall for the top spot last draft. Or Blake Griffin for the top spot two drafts ago. Or Derrick Rose three drafts ago. Or…

It has some fans wondering is Irving a deserving No. 1 pick? Where would he fall in other drafts?

Good questions. But two very separate and distinct ones.

Is he a deserving No. 1? Yes, he’s the best player with the most potential in his draft class. He deserves to go No. 1 this year. The draft is a year-to-year thing, it has ups and downs and is not a constant. This is Irving’s year. He earned it. You can’t take that away from him.

Where would he fall in other drafts? That’s harder to answer.

I spoke with several scouts and front office people and asked where Irving would fall in other drafts. The answer was fairly universal — they don’t know. They don’t care. As one guy said, teams don’t really think like that. It would be a waste of energy to work out where Irving would fall on last year’s draft board. So they don’t do it.

One person suggested that in general you can figure a player in this draft would go about five spots lower most years, but that still it would be hard to pinpoint  where an one player would fall (workouts against these other guys would have influenced the draft).

It’s a fans exercise, not a team one. But it’s interesting. Let’s take a look at the last few drafts ourselves and try to figure it out.

Last year there is no way Irving is taken before John Wall. Evan Turner was No. 2 and while he had an off year at the time he was a consensus better player than Irving is now (even if that may have been a miss). Derrick Favors (No. 3) would have been taken higher (big men with potential move up). Wesley Johnson at No. 4? Depends. DeMarcus Cousins at No. 5 was a better player but with character questions. Ekpe Udoh and Greg Monroe (No. 6 and 7) had questions but were centers. Basically, Irving likely might have gone anywhere four to eight.

Two years ago Blake Griffin still would have been No. 1. Hasheem Thabeet went No. 2 to Memphis and while we know about that pick in hindsight at the time Memphis would have made that move Irving or no. Then the picks went James Harden, Tyreke Evans and Ricky Rubio. Not sure Irving goes in front of any of them, but maybe. Then we get to No. 6 and Jonny Flynn, No. 7 Stephen Curry (coming out of a small school in Davidson). Irving again is probably right in there, No. 6 to No. 8, but could have been top three.

In 2008, Derrick Rose still goes No. 1 and Michael Beasley is still No. 2. Then the picks went O.J. Mayo, Russell Westbrook (remember how that was considered a reach?) and Kevin Love. Then at No. 6 it was the Knicks and Danilo Gallinari. Irving might have been in the mix anywhere after the first two, although again likely around five or six.

But that is all guesswork. Irving is not rated as a guy you can build a franchise around like the top picks the last three years, but he is a quality player. A guy strongly considered in the top five any year.

And a guy who earned being No. 1 this year. That’s all that matters.

Three players most likely to be moved on Trade Deadline Day

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There will be trades today. Unexpected ones.

Probably not the big names fans are hoping to see. The offers for Carmelo Anthony have been so poor that as much as Phil Jackson wants to move ‘Melo he can’t take those offers. Indiana isn’t eager to trade Paul George, same with Chicago and Jimmy Butler, and it’s going to take a very unlikely Godfather offer to get those deals done (such as Boston parting with one of their Brooklyn picks). Andre Drummond likely remains a Piston.

Sorry to be Debbie Downer on the big trades.

But here are three guys likely to be moved.

1) Jahlil Okafor, Philadephia 76ers. He’s been in more rumors than Khloe Kardashian the past few months. The latest rumors have the Chicago Bulls making a push to land him, but demanding the Sixers take Nikola Mirotic back in the deal. The Bulls don’t need Mirotic — a stretch four shooing 29 percent from three this season — with the emergence of Cristiano Felicio. where Okafor would give Chicago more scoring inside. However, why exactly do the Sixers want Mirotic when they have Dario Saric? The Bulls are going to have to throw more in that deal.

Other teams have expressed interest in Okafor, including Indiana. The Sixers need to move people around up front, the only question is because there is a glut of centers on the market — Brook Lopez, Tyson Chandler, Greg Monroe, to name a few — the price is low. Bryan Colangelo may decide to wait until this summer, but he’s prefer to just get this done.

2) P.J. Tucker, Phoenix Suns. He’s a physical, tough defender who can get you buckets on the other end, a lot of teams could use him. The Clippers had interest and offered a couple of second round picks, but the Suns wanted a first-rounder. The Knicks also had interest at one point, but they don’t have a first-rounder they can move until basically the second coming. Still, Tucker is on the market and I expect some veteran team will come in and try to scoop him up.

3) Darren Collison, Sacramento Kings. After owner Vivek Ranadive finally changed his mind, the Kings moved quickly to trade DeMarcus Cousins and put the team on a path. A rebuilding path. One that doesn’t have a lot of roster spots for older players. That includes Darren Collison. He’s a solid point guard averaging 13.7 points per game this season, shooting 42 percent from three, and he knows how to run an offense. There’s a lot of teams that could use him, and the Kings can listen to multiple offers than take the best one. But there’s no reason to keep him around the rest of the season.

 

Report: Unless they trade for Jimmy Butler or Paul George, Celtics likely to keep main assets

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The Celtics have been linked in trade talks to the Bulls’ Jimmy Butler and Pacers’ Paul George, but that requires the other team to deal with Boston. Indications are neither Chicago nor Indiana is particularly amenable.

So, time for the Celtics to pick another star to target?

Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald:

With less than 24 hours until the NBA’s 3 p.m. trade deadline today, the Celtics were said to be still holding out hope that internal discussions within the Bulls and Pacers would lead to one or both making their best player available.

But short of that, the view from around the league is that the Celts are becoming more and more enamored with the idea of keeping their main assets and using the first-round draft pick they have coming from Brooklyn in June via a swap of positions. (They also have the Nets’ 2018 first-rounder unencumbered.)

Sources continued to say that, while there remains a chance things could change as the deadline draws nearer, Chicago and Indiana are more likely to retain Jimmy Butler and Paul George, respectively. Those All-Star talents have been the Celtics’ two main targets

This could just be the Celtics playing hardball — either through leaks to the media or through conversations with other teams that have trickled out. But Bulpett is well-connected, especially in Boston. This is more likely than most reports of this nature to be accurate, but it’s always difficult to break through the smokescreens this time of year.

The Nets’ upcoming first-rounder is extremely valuable, as they’ll likely finish with the NBA’s worst record. The Celtics could do far worse than keeping that pick.

But Boston’s top players — Isaiah Thomas (28) and Al Horford (30) — are already at ages where they can’t necessarily wait for a 2017 pick, even someone as talented at as Markelle Fultz or Lonzo Ball, to develop. It makes sense to cash in chips now.

Still, the Celtics’ deep pool of assets mean the window isn’t closing yet. There should be no desperation to make a win now trade.

If Boston keeps its main assets — mainly the Nets picks — past the trade deadline, we’ll just revisit all this again in the summer.

Cavaliers sign forward Derrick Williams to second 10-day contract

Cleveland Cavaliers' Derrick Williams, right, drives to the basket against Indiana Pacers' Rodney Stuckey in the first half of an NBA basketball game, Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2017, in Cleveland. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)
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The Cleveland Cavaliers have signed forward Derrick Williams to a second 10-day contract.

The NBA champions have been impressed with Williams, a former No. 2 overall pick, and it’s likely they will sign him for the remainder of the season when his current contract expires. The Cavs announced Wednesday they signed Williams again. He has averaged 9.8 points and 3.0 rebounds in 22 minutes for the Cavs, who have been bringing him off their bench with their second unit.

Before signing as a free agent with Cleveland on Feb. 9, Williams played for Miami this season before being released.

The Cavs returned from the All-Star break Wednesday and will practice before hosting the New York Knicks on Thursday, just a few hours after the trade deadline.

Hornets’ Miles Plumlee out at least two weeks with leg injury

Charlotte Hornets' Miles Plumlee (18) dunks against the Philadelphia 76ers in the first half of an NBA basketball game in Charlotte, N.C., Monday, Feb. 13, 2017. (AP Photo/Chuck Burton)
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The Hornets are essentially two different teams with and without Cody Zeller.

They’re 22-17 when he plays and 2-15 when he doesn’t. They play at a 62-win pace with him on the floor and a 29-win pace when he sits.

So, with Zeller banged up, Charlotte traded for Miles Plumee. But Plumlee hasn’t provided much, just 3.2 points and 3.8 rebounds in 13.4 minutes per game in five contests.

And now he’ll add even less.

Hornets release:

The Charlotte Hornets announced today that center Miles Plumlee underwent a Magnetic Resonance Image (MRI), which revealed a second-degree calf strain in his right leg. Plumlee will be out for Charlotte’s game tomorrow at Detroit and will be re-evaluated in two weeks.

The Hornets incurred significant long-term costs ($37.5 million over the next three years) to use Plumlee as a short-term bandage. Without him providing even that, this situation looks bleak.

Depending on Zeller’s health, this could turn Charlotte — 2.5 games and three teams out of playoff position — into sellers before the trade deadline. At minimum, it makes the Hornets less likely to buy.