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Still big gap between NBA owners, players after key talks


If you were waiting to really worry about an NBA lockout, now is a good time.

Tuesday’s negotiation session — which NBA Commissioner David Stern had previously called key to avoiding a July 1 lockout — had both sides leaving and speaking in pessimistic tones. Chris Paul said this to Brian Smith of the Salt Lake Tribune (via twitter).

“We talked for a while. Both sides made moves, but we’re still very, very far apart on what we’re trying to get done.”

NBA Union Executive Director Billy Hunter was slightly more optimistic, and called a new proposal by the owners a ray of light in a very dark room. So if you’re looking for hope, that’s it.

The players are meeting again Thursday to go over the owners’ new proposal from Tuesday, then the two sides will meet again on Friday. But with nine days until a lockout there is a lot of room between the two sides.

The big move of the day was the owners proposed a “flex cap” according to David Stern. Here are his comments, via the tweets of Ken Berger of CBS Sports:

Stern: Proposal also included “flex cap,” with a max that could be exceeded and a minimum….Stern says cap “target” is $62 million per team, with a max above that to allow for exceptions such as the Bird exception.”…. Stern on owners’ proposal: “It’s all out there. … I’m never saying final, final to anything other than we made our offer.

What you think of that depends on where you think the middle ground really is. For the owners, whose first proposal was a $45 million hard cap with no exceptions, this is a significant compromise.

But for the players, the new proposal is still a hard cap, and that is a sticking point. Right now there is a soft cap with a lot of exceptions, allowing teams to spend. While the players are willing to limit exceptions, they do not want a hard cap.

Make no mistake, this is a hard cap. While teams could go over the $62 million it would only be a little over according to reports (a few million to sign players). Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver said it was based in some degree on the NHL cap, but in that one if you go over the cap by a million to pay a bonus one season, the next season your team’s cap is $1 million lower. This is not a situation like now where the cap is $57 million but the Lakers are spending $90 million.

The union’s Hunter said that there was movement on the overall split of revenue between the sides — the Basketball Related Income (BRI). Adam Silver said they were moving closer to a 50/50 split (currently the players get 57 percent).

However, Hunter said they are still very far apart on how that money will be divided (or even where the split of BRI will be). Movement on the BRI is a start. Although Stern called it a “modest proposal.”

We are a long, long way from this being solved. There is going to be a lockout on July 1. But that ray of light into the negotiations is at least some hope that the two sides can find common ground before games are lost.

Report: Hawks signing Dennis Schroder to four-year, $70 million contract extension

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Update: Marc Stein of ESPN:

That’s an even better deal for the Hawks.


The Hawks traded a former All-Star in his prime (Jeff Teague). They waived two experienced backups (Jarrett Jack and Will Bynum), leaving only rookie Malcolm in Delaney in reserve.

Atlanta is putting all its point guard eggs in Dennis Schroder‘s basket – not just as the starter on a team that expects to make the playoffs, but a long-term building block.

Marc Stein of ESPN:

Paying Schroder $17.5 million per year seems fair, because he could wind up drastically underpaid or drastically overpaid.

Schroder drives into the lane with abandon and usually produces quality outcomes as a result. He possesses impressive tools and is already beginning to utilize them, including in several clutch situations.

But he must make better decisions with the ball, finish better at the rim and shoot better from outside for Atlanta’s bet to pay off. It’s also help if he becomes more than just an occasionally pesky defender.

Just 23, time is on his side.

If Schroder develops into a quality starting point guard, he’ll be a bargain. The Hawks will have done well to lock him up before he proved his ability, and their other moves indicate they believe in him making this step.

But if a larger role just exposes Schroder’s flaws, this could backfire. For all the justifiable reasons to have faith in Schroder’s ascension, it’s important to remember he’s not there yet.

This is a relative high-variance bet by Atlanta, which I like in principle. Teams are generally too conservative with rookie-scale contract extensions.

If Schroder doesn’t break out as they hope, the Hawks will have problems regardless of whether or not they extend him. It’s not as if handling him restricted free agency would be a walk in the park.

Now, if Schroder lives up to the hype in Atlanta, the Hawks’ return on investment will be even greater.

Steven Adams spent NBA opening night watching Anime

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Last night you were likely watching the Cavaliers destroy the Knicks, then flipping over to watch the Indians and Cubs. It was a great sports night (especially if you live in Cleveland).

That’s not what Steven Adams was doing, he was watching Anime. Which probably had a lot more drama than either of the NBA games last night. Via Fred Katz of the Norman Transcript.

You have to love Adams.

One Piece is… like I know. From Wikipedia:

One Piece follows the adventures of Monkey D. Luffy, a young man whose body gained the properties of rubber after unintentionally eating a Devil Fruit. With his diverse crew of pirates, named the Straw Hat Pirates, Luffy explores the Grand Line in search of the world’s ultimate treasure known as “One Piece” in order to become the next King of the Pirates.

Insert your own joke about that being better than watching the Knicks offense (or the Warriors’ defense) here.

Adams will be more focused on basketball Wednesday night when OKC opens the season in Philadelphia. Joel Embiid will keep his mind on the game.

Sixers CEO: Ben Simmons will play for Sixers this season

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Ben Simmons is out with a broken foot — a Jones fracture — and that has led to rampant speculation about when the Sixers’ No. 1 pick might return to the court. Coach Brett Brown said January (the short end of the timeline) then walked those comments back, while there are rumors people in Simmons camp may want him to sit out the season.

Sixers CEO Scott O’Neill was on TCN’s Breakfast on Broad and made it clear Simmons will be back this season. He blew off the idea that Rich Paul (Simmons’ agent) wants him to take the season off.

“No, it’s not true,” O’Neil said. “Yeah, he’ll be back.”

There is no timeline for Simmons’ return, which isn’t just the team managing expectations (well, it’s partially the team trying to manage expectations). Jones fractures involve the bone that runs from the base of your little toe up to near the ankle, and the problem is that area of the foot does not have great natural blood flow, which means healing can be slow and harder to predict. We know that Simmons had surgery to repair the break, but recovery times will be flexible.

Brett Brown told me in a ProBasketballTalk Podcast how much he just wants to get Simmons, Joel Embiid, Jahlil Okafor, Dario Saric, and Nerlens Noel all healthy at the same time so he can start to see what lineups work, which guys play well off each other and which don’t (we learned last season Noel and Okafor are not a great fit). Maybe Simmons can be part of that process in the second half of the season.

Mavericks’ Devin Harris sprains big toe, out at least three weeks

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Devin Harris is the kind of veteran, versatile player Dallas coach Rick Carlisle likes in his backcourt — he can run the point or be a small two-guard off the ball. Carlise wants multiple ball handlers on the court and Harris allows him to do that with a number of different combinations.

Or rather, Harris will allow Carlisle to do that once he gets healthy. From Earl K. Sneed of

Harris had surgery on the big toe on his other foot, this injury is to the “good” one. Harris can be a bit injury prone and the Mavs likely will bring him along slowly.

This likely means more J.J. Barea and Seth Curry in the short term in Dallas.