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Tons of Steve Nash trade chatter, none of it from Phoenix

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Suddenly everybody wants to talk about where Steve Nash is going to end up, he is second on the “most discussed trade” hit parade, right behind Carmelo Anthony, and everyone is speculating about an end destination.

How about Phoenix?

For all the talk, there are a number of reasons that the Suns are just not likely to move Nash at all. At least not this year, maybe not ever. That list starts with they don’t really want to — look at Alvin Gentry’s quote today (via the twitter account of Paul Coro from the Arizona Republic).

“Steve’s not going to be traded, that I can tell you. If he’s traded, I’m going along with him, OK?”

There’s a lot of Nash chatter out there, but none of it is emanating from Phoenix. It’s front office, media and fans outside Arizona salivating at the thought of how Nash can help them. And you can see the logic because if the Suns are out of contention in the West they should get something for Nash while they can.

But the Suns just signed Nash to an extension, he is the face of the franchise. They are not just going to jettison him because they are having a slow start to the season — or even if that start continues. To trade Nash is to commit fully and totally to rebuilding, and while you may think the Suns should do that they will say they made it to the Western Conference finals last season, that this team is still coming together and it is too soon.

Even if the Suns do change their mind and decide to trade him, it’s not that easy. Zach Lowe over at the Point Forward lays out a litany of reasons.

For one, Nash is 37 with a history of back trouble — he’s still an elite point guard but there are risks. Because of those he is only going to a team that thinks they can win it all right now. The pool of teams that should really flip assets for him and a run at it all is not that large.

Then the question is what are you going to give the Suns — if they trade Nash then they would let Jefferson go at the end of the season and so they would already have plenty of salary cap space. The Suns will want players and picks, not just expiring deals.

What potentially contending teams is out there that has young assets to trade and doesn’t already have a quality point guard? Nash is a bad fit with the Lakers, the Celtics don’t need him, Miami doesn’t have the assets nor do they want to take the ball out of Wade and LeBron’s hands. The best fit for Nash might be Atlanta — finally they would finally run more — but you’re going to have to do better than just Marvin Williams to make it happen. Josh Smith? That’s a steep price.

If you’re not a contending team with Nash, what’s the point? He’s going to walk away from the game in a couple more years and when he leaves you will have lost him and some young talent sent away to get him. If you’re flipping young prospects you need to be all in for the now.

Knicks fans, what do you really have to offer? Raymond Felton, the bloated Eddie Curry contract the Suns don’t really need and Gallinari? That’s going to inspire them?

As Lowe points out, if you’re the Suns and you are going to go all in on rebuilding, then they are going to make you take the Hedo Turkoglu contract on as the price for getting Nash. That is the bad contract they want to shed. So, if you have to give up more pieces to get Hedo and watch him float through games, is it still worth trading the assets for Nash?

More likely? Nash retires a Sun. A trade would not be a shock, but first the Suns need to decide they want o do it then someone has to blow them away with an offer. And that combo just seems very unlikely.

Steve Kerr on Stephen Curry: “it’s not an injury”

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In the age of social media and spin, the idea of a nuanced answer — where there is some truth to a statement, but it is not the only reason for something — gets drowned out.

For example, let’s take the case of Stephen Curry‘s below-par performance against the Oklahoma City Thunder (he was 6-of-20 shooting with six turnovers in Game 4 and is 5-of-21 from three in the last two games). A report came out Wednesday morning saying Curry was only 70 percent following his knee surgery, which first led to a lot of silly “excuses” comments on Twitter. This led to Steve Kerr denying the injury, via Ben Bolch of the Los Angeles Times.

Here’s a radical idea: Curry’s struggles are a combination of things.

Yes, the improved, athletic, and lengthy Thunder defense is giving Curry problems. They are meeting him out high, often doubling off the pick-and-roll, and when that pick is set by Draymond Green Kevin Durant and his length is doing a great job of blowing that play up. Also, it is clear the physical exertion of guarding Russell Westbrook is wearing Curry down.

But also, he has lacked the explosiveness we saw lift him to a second consecutive MVP during the season. He’s had great quarters — the fourth and OT in Game 4 vs. Portland, and the second quarter of Game 2 vs. OKC — but he has not been the consistent force we are used to seeing.

Welcome to the playoffs, where if someone is a little bit off that gets exploited by the other team.

That is what is going on, the rest is just spin.

Frank Vogel says it would be “inaccurate” to say he begged for his job with Pacers

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This is all moot now. Frank Vogel has landed on his feet with a promising young Orlando team; Nate McMillan slid up a chair to take over the head coaching job in Indiana (which is an odd hire if Larry Bird wants the Pacers to play faster). But…

Frank Vogel wants you to know he did not beg for his job.

At the post-firing press conference of Pacers’ coach Larry Bird, he said that Vogel basically begged for his job. Vogel, speaking on ESPN Indianapolis Radio’s Dan Dakich Show Tuesday, via the Indianapolis Star:

Larry’s going to speak his mind. A lot of people talked to me about it who didn’t like that and it’s probably an inaccurate perception that I was begging him to stay. … I fully respect Larry and the process. He knew it was going to be an unpopular move but he did what he had to do.

“I felt like we were on the verge of some big things. We stood toe-to-toe with a 56-win team. I told my team after the series that were poised … I felt like I was going to be able to do that with this group. That was my only mention to Larry.”

Again, this is all moot.

The reality is Vogel was never Bird’s guy, Bird wanted the Pacers to play faster than they did last season (11th in the NBA in pace), and Bird thought it time for a change. He’s the team president, it’s his call.

But did Bird make the Pacers better with this move? Begging discussion aside, that is the question to which he must answer.

Kobe Bryant texts Draymond Green, says making history is not easy

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The Golden State Warriors made history — they won 73 games, more than any team in NBA history.

But they are on the verge of being remembered like the 2007 Patriots.

The Warriors are down 3-1 to the Thunder for a variety of reasons — the Thunder defense has been exceptional, Russell Westbrook is a beast, for whatever reason Stephen Curry is not playing like MVP Stephen Curry — but there is another key one:

Draymond Green has played like crap the last couple games.

Kobe Bryant, who relates to Green’s drive and intensity, texted him a message according to Sportando:

That reflects Kobe’s world view.

It may be very different from the Warriors’ reality — even if Curry and Green were back to playing at their peak, it very well might be a coin toss with this Thunder team playing at their peak. The struggles of those two — Green has turned the ball over, missed shots, and missed defensive rotations for two games — have a lot to do with the quality of play of that Thunder defense.

But if the Warriors can come back and win the series (and the title), it will add to their legend.

Report: Grizzlies offer David Fizdale head coaching job

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This is a quality hire, a respected long-time NBA assistant who has deserved a shot in the big chair.

But is he an upgrade over Dave Joerger?

Apparently the Grizzlies are betting that Miami Heat assistant coach David Fizdale is the man they need. From Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical at Yahoo Sports.

Casual fans may not know his name, but this could be a good hire for Memphis. Fizdale is an assistant coach with a quality franchise who has paid his dues and deserves a chance. For example, in Miami Fizdale had won the trust and respect of a team full of players that had won rings. He was a guy they leaned on. As an example, Fizdale worked hard with LeBron James on developing a post game; he was the guy LeBron trusted.

But how will he deal with an aging roster that lacks shooting? The Memphis job is a good one, but it has its challenges.