Tons of Steve Nash trade chatter, none of it from Phoenix

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Suddenly everybody wants to talk about where Steve Nash is going to end up, he is second on the “most discussed trade” hit parade, right behind Carmelo Anthony, and everyone is speculating about an end destination.

How about Phoenix?

For all the talk, there are a number of reasons that the Suns are just not likely to move Nash at all. At least not this year, maybe not ever. That list starts with they don’t really want to — look at Alvin Gentry’s quote today (via the twitter account of Paul Coro from the Arizona Republic).

“Steve’s not going to be traded, that I can tell you. If he’s traded, I’m going along with him, OK?”

There’s a lot of Nash chatter out there, but none of it is emanating from Phoenix. It’s front office, media and fans outside Arizona salivating at the thought of how Nash can help them. And you can see the logic because if the Suns are out of contention in the West they should get something for Nash while they can.

But the Suns just signed Nash to an extension, he is the face of the franchise. They are not just going to jettison him because they are having a slow start to the season — or even if that start continues. To trade Nash is to commit fully and totally to rebuilding, and while you may think the Suns should do that they will say they made it to the Western Conference finals last season, that this team is still coming together and it is too soon.

Even if the Suns do change their mind and decide to trade him, it’s not that easy. Zach Lowe over at the Point Forward lays out a litany of reasons.

For one, Nash is 37 with a history of back trouble — he’s still an elite point guard but there are risks. Because of those he is only going to a team that thinks they can win it all right now. The pool of teams that should really flip assets for him and a run at it all is not that large.

Then the question is what are you going to give the Suns — if they trade Nash then they would let Jefferson go at the end of the season and so they would already have plenty of salary cap space. The Suns will want players and picks, not just expiring deals.

What potentially contending teams is out there that has young assets to trade and doesn’t already have a quality point guard? Nash is a bad fit with the Lakers, the Celtics don’t need him, Miami doesn’t have the assets nor do they want to take the ball out of Wade and LeBron’s hands. The best fit for Nash might be Atlanta — finally they would finally run more — but you’re going to have to do better than just Marvin Williams to make it happen. Josh Smith? That’s a steep price.

If you’re not a contending team with Nash, what’s the point? He’s going to walk away from the game in a couple more years and when he leaves you will have lost him and some young talent sent away to get him. If you’re flipping young prospects you need to be all in for the now.

Knicks fans, what do you really have to offer? Raymond Felton, the bloated Eddie Curry contract the Suns don’t really need and Gallinari? That’s going to inspire them?

As Lowe points out, if you’re the Suns and you are going to go all in on rebuilding, then they are going to make you take the Hedo Turkoglu contract on as the price for getting Nash. That is the bad contract they want to shed. So, if you have to give up more pieces to get Hedo and watch him float through games, is it still worth trading the assets for Nash?

More likely? Nash retires a Sun. A trade would not be a shock, but first the Suns need to decide they want o do it then someone has to blow them away with an offer. And that combo just seems very unlikely.

Interviewer: LeBron James wasn’t dissing Kyrie Irving

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LeBron James on Isaiah Thomas, via Howard Beck of Bleacher Report:

“It’s been a while since I’ve had that clear-cut guy who can get guys involved but also score at the same time,” James told B/R Mag.

That looked like a shot at Kyrie Irving. But with more context, it clearly wasn’t.

Beck:

It seems LeBron was saying it’s been a while that he’s had “that clear-cut guy who can get guys involved but also score at the same time.” If he was slighting Kyrie Irving, LeBron was also slighting Dwyane Wade – and I doubt LeBron would do that.

LeBron and Kyrie probably aren’t above taking subtle shots at each other. But this seems like a case of Beck, after hearing LeBron’s words aloud and in context, not realizing how a trimmed version would read as text. It’s unfortunate that people initially got the wrong impression, but good on Beck for clearing it up.

Missouri: Potential No. 1 pick Michael Porter Jr. likely out for rest of season

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Missouri’s Michael Porter Jr. – maybe the top contender to supplant European guard Luka Doncic as the No. 1 pick in the 2018 NBA draft – had his campaign undercut after it barely began.

Missouri Basketball:

Michael Porter, Jr. will undergo surgery on Tuesday, Nov. 21, in Dallas, Texas. The procedure, a microdiscectomy of the L3 and L4 spinal discs, has a projected recovery time of three-four months and will likely cause him to miss the remainder of the season. Michael is expected to make a complete recovery

With that timeline, it’s possible Porter returns late in Missouri’s NBA season. But as an elite draft prospect stuck in a cartel system that caps his compensation well below market value, he should probably be cautious.

Porter will likely still go high in the draft – if his medicals check out. This is is a serious injury, and teams will be wary off long-term effects.

But he’s a top talent, and the forward shouldn’t slip far. In fact, in a strange way, this injury could even help him. There were questions about Porter’s ability to handle physicality and tight spaces when the game slows down, challenges he would have met frequently in college basketball. Now, scouts can’t pick apart those aspects of his game. Logically or not, NBA teams tend to favor the unknown in the draft, and Porter is on his way to being one of the biggest mysteries near the top of the 2018 draft.

Kevin Durant reverses course: Playing Thunder ‘just a regular game for me now’

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Kevin Durant said last season playing the Thunder is “never going to be a regular game for me.”

Now, the Warriors star, who’s questionable for tomorrow’s game in Oklahoma City, is singing a different tune.

Anthony Slater of The Athletic:

Durant:

Just a regular game for me now. I learned how to tune out the crowd. I learned how to tune out the bulls— and just play. Just keep at basketball, and I’ll be alright.

Durant is entitled to change his mind, and maybe that’s all that happened.

But this strikes me as yet another chasm between how Durant actually feels and how he wishes he felt – all while facing immense public scrutiny.

Durant spent eight years in Oklahoma City. Many of his former teammates, including Russell Westbrook, are still there. Durant might want to move on, but how could there not be a different feeling when playing the Thunder, especially in Oklahoma City?

Tony Allen: Russell Westbrook flopped to draw DeMarcus Cousins

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DeMarcus Cousins got ejected from the Pelicans’ win over the Thunder last night for elbowing Russell Westbrook in the head.

Afterward, Tony Allen came to his New Orleans teammate’s defense.

Fred Katz of The Norman Transcript:

Did Cousins elbow Westbrook in the head? Yes. Did Westbrook create and/or embellish the contact? I don’t know.

Westbrook stuck his head in close, and he might have been baiting Cousins into a foul. But that doesn’t give Cousins carte blanche to commit a foul.

And even if Westbrook were baiting Cousins, the elbow still might have hurt. Westbrook’s reaction could have been genuine.

Did Cousins’ reputation as a flagrant fouler influence Westbrook’s strategy and how officials perceived the play? It’s much easier to convince me of that.